Page Eleven Wednesday, May 4,1977 THE MICHIGAN DAILY Wednesday, May 4, 1977 THE MICHIGAN DAILY Page Eleven VA de fense raps witnesses (Continued from Page 1) patient's unexpected breathing failure. "He hadn't'appeared to be in any distress." KURTZ ALSO testified that at the time Hogan arrested, an unidentified medical student had been standing over him drawing blood with a syringe. In other testimony, Dr. Rich- ard Dickerman, who was chief resident of surgery during the arrests of 1975, said that one patient, Charles Gasmire, had received a total of seven milli- grams of Pavulon prior to sur- gery. Gasmire s u f f e r e d a breathing failure on July 29, but survived. "Are you familiar with the manufacturer's recommend- ed dosage of Pavulon?" asked Attorney Stein on cross-examin- ation. Stein then handed the witness a copy of the physician's desk reference, opened to the section on Pavulon. "The manu- facturer would recommend 5.5 miligrams of Pavulon " Dicker- man said, using quick arith- metic. THE PATIENT had received seven miligrams. Testimony later that week also brought out that at the time of yet aonther arrest, a mental patient who had broken free of his bed restraints had been fouind at the foot of the bed of the stricken patient. VA Staff Nurse Elenore Fea- ther testified that when she dis- covered patient John Herman, "he was not breathing and he was pulseless." She also said that a mental patient from the room two doors down was inside the room: "He was just stand- ing there mute. He had ntra- vaneous (IV) tubing dangling down." NURSE FEATHER said that when the mental patient had been put in bed, his restrictive jacket hadn't been secured to the siderail. Defense A I t o r n e y Thomas O'Brien then questioned Feaher about the VA hospital's standard practice of allowing mental pa- tients to roam the hospital dur- ing the day. Oe continuing source of con- troversy in the case has been harrassment of witnesses by the FBI during its investigation of the VA deaths. Prosecuting at- torneys have more than once been forced on the defensive, having to supply testimony to attest to the credibility of evi- dence and to the conduct of the NURSE JULIE PORTER tes- tified under oath last week that Federal agents had subjected her to "a four hour interroga- tion" session. Porter alleged that one agent held up his hand with his five fingers represent- ing the five VA nurses who worked the intensive care sunit. She recalled the agent as saying that three of the nurses didn't do it, and that left Narciso and Perez. Porter also testified that VA Hospital C'ief of Staff Dr. Robert Lindenauer instructed the FBI not to harass any of his doctors or medical students about the deaths. Prosecutors felt compelled to respond to Porter's testimony by bringing Agent Otis Archie to the stand. Archie had been one of the two agents who inter- viewed Miss Porter. "WE WANTED Miss Porter to tell us what she had seen and what she had heard," said Archie, and the agent went on to describe the difefrence be- tween an interview and an inter- rogation. "We interviewed her," "It's our approach that you can catch more bees with hone ythan you can with vine- gar," Archie testified. He said that he had been deliberately called in for the interview be- cause he was "a low-key indi- vidual." "Who do they call in when they need someone who is high- powered?" Defense Attorney O'Brien asked sarcastically. STILL, THE only source of constant legal controversy in the VA case continues to be the prosecution's repeated addition of new witnesses. Since the start of the trial the government h a s successfully sought to add up to 51 witnesses to its original witness list. "We based our opening state- ment on the premise that we knew who the witnesses would be," Attorney Stein said on one occasion, Stein claimed that the de- fense attorneys "just don't have time" to interview all new wit- nesses. Judge Pratt has not yet ruled on a motion to dismiss the case. VA wit and wisdom As the Veterans Administration (VA) Hospital murder Iitial enters its second month of testimony, the proceedings have been marked by sarcastic remarks, most notably on the part of defense attorneys. During the testimony of Elizabeth Campbell, a register- ed nurse at the VA hlospital, defense attorney Thomas O Brien handed the witness a copy of an FBI 302 report to read. "The printing isn't that good," the witness said. "I know, we didn't make the copies," O'Brien replied, indicat- ing the prosecution table. A similar barb was launched at the FBI last week when a witness had trouble fiiding a section referred to by the defense in her copy of a medical reference. Defense attorney Edward Stein, who had no index to facilitate the search for the particular section in the records, remarked "that's the trouble with =the FBt They only make copies of what they want." The sarcasm of the defense attornevs is often aimed at the actions of the two defendants, nurses Leonora Perez and Filipina Narciso. Questioning one witness who had seen Narciso immediately after one of the respiratory arrests, O'Brien asked "You didn't see Miss Narciso with any syr- inges in her hand, did you? . . . Doing anything sinister ...? Last month, defense attorney Stein had asked another witness if Miss Perez had been "hiding behind a curtain or in some closet." And on one occasion, Judge Pratt hiiiself felt obliged to get into the act. The jury hid just heard testimony from a pulminary disease specialist when court brike for recess. After the recess, Judge Pratt asked "Did you have a ciga- rette during the recess?" "Yes, I did!" the witnesses admitted, under sith. 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