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More excerpts from tape transcripts
WASHINGTON (A') - Slight
differences in punctuation and
word order in the House Judic-
iary Committee transcript of
President Nixon's March 21
meeting with John Dean suggest
that Nixon knew more facts than
the White House transcripts of
the same meeting indicated.
A discussion about original
Watergate defendant H. How-
ard Hunt is recited this way in
the Judiciary transcript:
President: Well, your, your
major, your major guy to keep
under control is Hunt.
Dean: That's right.
President: I think. Because
he knows
Dean:sHe knows so much.
President: About a lot of oth-
er things.
Dean: He knows so much.
Right.
In the White House transcript,
however, Nixon is portrayed as
inquiring rather than asserting:
President: Your major guy to
keep under control is Hunt?
Dean: That is right.
President: I think. Does he
know a lot?
Dean: He knows so much.
In another exchange, Nixon is
portrayed by the Judiciary tran-
script as knowing about the veil-
ed contribution of $400,000 in
leftover campaign funds to an
Alabama campaign of George
Wallace.
Dean: . .. I assume this was
four hundred; uh, that went
President: Wallace.
Dean: To Wallace. Right.
But in the White House trans-
script, the exchange read:
Dean: . . . I assume this was
100,000 that went to Wallace.
President: Wallace?
Dean: Right.
Later in the same meeting,
Dean is discussing a New York
federal grand jury's probe of
former campaign officials Maur-
ice Stans and John Mitchell.
In the Judiciary transcript, it
is Nixon who interjects that the
case involves financier Robert
Vesco. In the White H o u s e
transcript, it is Dean who cite.s
Vesco.
PRESIDENT NIXON said a
proposed payoff to Watergate
Defendant E. Howard Hunt is
"worth it, at the moment," ac-
cording to a House Judiciary
Committee transcript of Nixon's
March 21, 1973 meeting with
counsel John Dean. --
The comment was omitted in a
White House transcript of the
same meeting.
A crucial issue in the House
panel's impeachment investiga-
tion is whether Nixon authorized
a payoff to Hunt to buy his si-
lence. .
The Judiciary Committee tran-
script quoted Dean discussing
"how to minimize the further
growth of this thing, rather than
further compound it by, you
know, ultimately paying these
guys forever."
President: "Yeah."
Dean: "I think we've got to
look-"
President: "But at the mo-
ment, don't you agree that you'd
better get the Hunt thing? I
mean, that's worth it, at t h e
moment."
Dean: "That, that's worth
buying time on, right."
President: "And that's ,Guy-
ing time on, I agree."
In the White House versin,
Dean also was saying "I think
we've got to look-" when Nix-
on interrupted.
President: "But at the mo-
ment, don't you agree it is
better to get the Hunt thing
that's where that-"
Dean: "That is worth buying
time on."
President: "That is buying
time, I agree."
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PRESIDENT NIXON suggest-
ed that former fund-raiser Her-
bert Kalmbach not put out the
full story about a secret $1.7-
million fund, according to a
House Judiciary Committee
transcript of a presidential con-
versation.
The discussion took place on
March 21, 1973 between Nixon
and his counsel, John Dean.
They were discussing funds
Kalmbach had handled and what
a grand jury might ask about
them, and about use of the
funds to pay political saboteur
Donald Segretti. The Judiciary
version says:
President: How would you
handle him, then, John. F or
example, would you just have
him put the whole thing out?
Dean: Draws breath
President: I don't think so.
I meant I don't mind the five
hundred thousand dollars and I
don't mind the four hundred
thousand dollars.
In the White House version,
Vixon asks the rhetorical ques-
tion and then answers by say-
ing: "I don't mind the $500,000
and the $400,000." The phrase
"I don't think so" does not ap-
pear in the White H o u s e
version.
PRESIDENT NIXON believed
Vice Chairman Howard Baker
of the Senate Watergate com-
mittee was refusing to talk to
White House people because
Baker thought his phone w as
tapped.
The House Judiciary Commit-
tee's transcript of a presidential
tape recording made on March
22, 1973 contains this reference
to the Tenessee Republican sen-
ator that did not appear in the
White House-edited version of
the same conversation.
Nixon: ". . . Baker is not
proving much of a reed up to
this point. He's smart enough."
. Former Atty. Gen. John Mit-
chell: "Howard is smart
enough, but, uh, we've got to
carry him. Uh, I think he has
and I've been puzzling over a
way to have a liaison with him
and, and, uh-"
Nixon: "He won't talk on the
phone with anybody, according
to Atty. Gen. Richard Klein-
dienst. He thinks his phone is
tapped."
Mitchell: "He does?"
Nixon: "Who's tapping h i s
phone?"
Mitchell: "I don't know."
Nixon: "Who would he thiak,
who would he think would be
taping his phone? I guess may-
be that we would."
Mitchell: "I don't doubt that."
Nixon: "He must think that
Watergate committee Chairman
Sam Ervin-"
Mitchell: "Maybe."
Nixon: "Or, a newspaper."
Mitchell: "Newspaper, or, or
the Democratic party or some-
body .
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