Page Yen [HE MICHIGAN DAIS :. E ulabuuy, ^pird '12, 1977, Page Ten tHE MICI-IIc~AN DAILY. iue~uuy, r~priI 12, 197) 00 the- Classified Union houses divine debate New city budget proposed By JOSHUA PECK was less direct. She named sev- eral ways that people have Noted atheist Madalyn O'Hair "known" God, including direct clashed with a professor of the- personal contact ("hallucina- ology over the question of God's existence in a debate at the Michigan Union last night. Her opponent, Harry Veryser of Hillsdale College, began his argument w i t h the statement: "things move." Since every- thing that moves must be mov- ed by something, the existence of a prime mover, an intelligent eternal entity can be deduced, he said. O'HAIR'S logical progression tions") and intuition. She noted that these more primitive "proofs" have been discarded for the most part even by the church, and that religion now relies on what it regards as ra- tionality. "Everything has a cause, say the religious. Butwho caused God? Who is God's mother?" she asked. Veryser mentioned that peo- ple might object to his "prime II mover" argument by invoking the notion of an infinite series,j an endless chain of things mov- ing other things. "But an infi- nite series cannot be travers- ed," he said. You can, never reach the end of an endless chain, he argued, "and this im- plies a motionless universe, which of course is false. There is a prime mover." O'Hair's deadpan humor1 amused most of the audience and shocked some when she asked, "What was God doing until he decided to create the universe . . . masturbating?" O'HAIR NOTED "all Gods re- semble the people that invented them." The Irishwoman went on to compare religious notions of creation to medeival explana- tions for disease. Disease was given mystical explanations be- fore we knew better, she said, but new we have seen the or- ganisms that cause it. Physics will soon show us the godless rationality of the universe, be it in the big bang, or any other cosmological theory, O'Hair added. (Continued from Page 1) presented Council with plans for. The new city .budget, which expanding, renovating, and re- takes effect July 1, includes $21 placing portions of the existing million for the city general fund.: medical facility. Murray said he anticipates a "Many buildings are! becom- reduction of property tax money ing worn out and past patient going into the general fund from care condition," Richard Ken:- the current 19 mills to 18.4 mills. nedy, University vice president I MEETINGS,.. DON'T DREAD THEM- DEVELOP THEM CITY SEWER rates will in- crease 14 per cent and water rates 12 per cent under the new budget. Monthly parking struc- ture rates will also rise S per cent to help fund upcoming re- pairs. Murray said that although he is pleased with the proposed budget, mainly because no city employes will be laid off this year, it falls $3 million short of funds requested by city depart- ments. In order to trim the budget, 13 city positions which are now vacant or will become vacant are to be eliminated within the next year. During a w o r k i n g session which followed the special Coun- cil session, three representatives from the University Hospital interested U-M STAFF can find out how at a WORKSHOP to be held THURSDAY, APRIL 21, 8:30-5:00 P.M. for enrollment information cal TRAINING & DEVELOPMENT 764-7410 for, state relations, said. ALTHOUGH several of the hospital's main buildings are now obsolete, they can be reno- vated to serve as out-patient,' research, and administrative fa-; cilities, Kennedy said. Dr. Douglas Sarboff, riho is! in charge of much of the plan-; ning for the new facilities, pre- serited Council with six proposed sites for hospital expansion. Among the tentative plans are: 0 keeping the hospital in its: current location, where it is near both patients and employes. To implement this plan, how- ever, the hospital, would face higher construction costs as well as continued difficulties with parking shortages and congested' streets; * purchasing the existing St. Joseph Mercy Hospital building when the facility relocates to new quarters outside the city. This would also create a park- ing and traffic problem; * utilizing Fuller Field, cur- rently University property, as well as St. Joseph Hospital for new University Hospital facili- ties. Much of this land is bor- dered by the Huron River and train tracks, creating the risk of springtime flooding as well as co stant noise from passing trains; * moving part of the hospital and Medical School to a Univer- sity-owned site - the Sheridan property, on North Campus. Al- though this site permits easy access and parking, some hos- pital f a c i I i t i e s, particularly emergency rooms, would have to be duplicated at both the ex- isting and proposed site; * moving portions of the hos- pital beyond the city limits to Radrick Farms property on Dix- boro Rd. This site is, three miles from the existing medical cen- ter, but would permit unlimited expansion in the future. "There is not a clear solu- tion," Sarboff said. "All of these options would work." University Hospital will begin submitting'-requests for expan- sion funds to the state within the next two months. Kennedy said that if all plans go smoothly, new hospital fa- cilities could be completed by 1984. Football facts UCLA has five night games listed this season. Four of them at home. 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