Page 4-Thursday, April 12, 1979-The Michigan Daily . \ AA~ a 1 Last Saturday, 18 men tried to better understand their role as men in the women's liberation movement in a workshop held as part of East Quad's Symposium on Women's Issues. They talkedabout men's liberation, a movement which says that men can gain from liberationfrom sex stereotyping as much as women can. This is sometimes hard to accomplish, however, because it means men must give up their roles as op- pressors of women. Of course, in the end, we all gain from an in- creased understanding of each other's needs. "IT USED TO BE that people couldn't talk openly about things like sex and relationships," said one workshop participant. "Roles developed because peoplegneeded guidance about things they couldn'tbtalk about. Nowgwecan talk about these things more openly, yet we're trapped by the same roles." "Many asked, "Why do we always have to be the ones to ask women out on dates?" They said they were tired of always having to be aggressive in initiating relation- ships. This also extends into sex. Men are often confused when to, or even if to, make a move, but can't express this uncertainty since it would be "unmasculine." Another man said a friend of his had approached a woman in a Florida bar to strike up a con- versation with her. The women felt insulted when she found out all he wanted to do was talk. By Mark Huck and Mike Taylor Men seek their own liberation BY FREEING men from rigid, men. preconceived sex roles, men's Another man related his ex- liberation means an end to these periences with male bonding at a dehumanizing situations. summer job, describing how Men's liberation also helps men when men meet they get to know relate to other men. In this *each other by first assuming society, competition and basic interests (that is, as men, masculinity in men are stressed, their common interest in "Others said that such fears of gay relationships often prevents men from forming deep frien- dships with each other." prevents men from forming deep friendships with each other. ALL AGREED that men's liberation will improve relation- ships between men in the future. Throughout the afternoon, however, it was clear that more communication between the sexes was needed. The men left the session with questions to ask women, planning to meet with them over dinner in East Quad's Halfway Inn the following evening. By 5:30 p.m. Sunday evening, 40 men and women were sitting in a crowded circle on the stage of the Halfway Inn. The men opened the discussion by'relating what had happened at Saturday's workshop. Many women respon- ded to issues the men raised. One woman said she had been moved when a male friend told her he was able to say he loved his best friend. Another person ob- served that, while many men ex- pressed a reluctance. to touch other men, the subject was never explored fully. People agreed to discuss the matter at a future date. Many related topics were discussed, and all agreed that one of the meeting's chief goals-to increase communcation between men and women-had been achieved. People left full of energy, confident that increased communication will lead to each other's ultimate liberation. k, K. L\1. lb- and we lose sight of the fact that, as people, we need emotional support from men as well as women. One workshop partici- ant pointed out how "male bon- ding" in organizations like foot- ball and other athletic endeavors provides such support from men, but two other men disagreed, saying that it was not emotional support, but rather acceptance of a common bond-that of all being jI women). Being gay, this man had no such interest, and as a result, never got along satisfactorily with his co-workers. Several participants com- plained that society says men cannot touch each other in frien- dship, noting that fear of homosexuality, or homophobia, is often cited as the root of this problem. Others said that such fears of gay relationships often lv Mark Huck and for are Resident1 East Quad. Mike Tay- Fellows in r __.. 0 Mt'1ctan :4a eu 420 Maynard St., Ann Arbor, MI 48109 Eighty-Nine Years of Editorial Freedom 'U, should not hold secret Vol. LXXXIX, No. 154 News Phone: 764-0552 Edited and managed by students at the University of Michigan ROTC classes should not receive LSA credit T HE LSA CURRICULUM committee voted earlier this week not to ex- tend academic credit to ROTC Bourses within the college. The committee's action was commendable, and the faculty should uphold this decision when it is presented to them in the fall. LSA is one of the only schools in the University which does not grant credit for the ROTC courses. Quite simply, while these courses may be of academic value, their military orien-; tation is not compatible with the liberal arts education that LSA tries to offer Univrsity students. A major problem with the courses is that, because they are taught by military professionals and not by professors, they may emphasize the military aspects in the classes. These instructors aren't accredited in the same manner as the college's tenured faculty, and the college does not con- trol what they teach. Another problem with the ROTC courses is their pre-professional em- phasis. For the most part, the colleges which do grant credit for ROTC cour- ses are the professional ones-Engineering, Nursing, and Ar- chitecture, to name a few. But the in- tent of LSA courses is not to prepare students for specific professions, but rather to offer a wide range of liberal arts courses. And ROTC contradicts the college's intent. Finally, ROTC students have unique financial arrangements in their relationship to the University as well as to their particular military branch. By the time those taking ROTC courses are juniors and seniors, they will be receiving a stipend just for being in the program. If they were to receive academic credit for their ROTC cour- ses, it would be the same as giving credit for something they are paid to do anyway. As History Professor John King said at the curriculum meeting Tuesday, "While professors in this college have a sole commitment and loyalty to the University, ROTC teachers have a commitment to the military." However, this does not mean ROTC courses should be abolished. Indeed, there is justification for granting credit for these courses in some other schools within the Univer- sity. But they do not belong in LSA. A liberal arts education should not in- clude classes in learning how to be a "professional" soldier. presid Sometime in the near future, interviews of the final candidates for the University presidency will begin. Three representatives of the faculty advisory committee and two members from both the student and alumni advisory committees will join an un- specified number of Regents in questioning a group the Board hopes will be "less than eight persons." Unfortunately for everyone but the members of those four com- mittees, these final interviews will be conducted secretly. As a result, everyone in the University community except the 43 people involved in the search process will be denied the opportunity to meet and evaluate the person- who may head the University for the next ten years. Barring any information leaks, we will find out who that person is when the Regents announce their selec- tion. We may never find out who else might have become Univer- sity president. ADMITTEDLY, there are valid arguments for the secret inter- viewing process the Regents have selected. According to University of Wisconsin School of Education Prof. Joseph Kauf- fman, who has written a book on the selection of college and university presidents, the con- fidential method is employed "in order to be able to talk to the most qualified candidates in the country. Candidates in important positions do not wart to subject themselves to rumors and assumptions that they might want to leave." Awkward questions may be asked. Is the candidate unhappy in his present job? Does he consider the school where he is applying a higher quality institution? Even worse, Kauffman ex- plained, is the possibility that a candidate might announce inten- tions of accepting a job at another university and then not be offered the job. Aside from the chance that colleagues might re-examine the applicant's ability (after all, another school had just refused him), the candidate may have damaged his working relation- ships with associates by implying that he may want to quit his current job. "If you are the executive of- ficer of a governing 'board, your relationship (with .the b,oard), may never be the saipe'ifyou ina- dicate you want to leave and then you don't get it (the position)," Kauffman said. BUT THE public's right to know who is under consideration for the University's top position supercedes the fears potential candidates may have. Since every member of the University community will be affected by the important decisions the school's president makes, the names of the final candidates for the post should be made public so that those candidates can be evaluated by the people they will serve if chosen. Several universities and. colleges across the country believe in this philosophy and have instituted interviewing policies in which candidates' names are announced, and they are questioned by members of the groups to which they will be responsible. Haverford College, a small, prestigious ; school outside Philadelphia, with a strong Quaker tradition, is one such college. After an 11-member search committee narrowed down an initial pool of 410 in the school's search for a president in 1977-78, four front-runners were invited for two-day visits at the college. The four - Bernard Harleston, Dean of the faculty in the Tufts University School of Ar- ts and Sciences; Neil Grabois,. Provost of Williams College; An- ential drew DeRocco, a professor in the Institute of Physical Science and Technology at the University of Maryland; and Gerhard Spiegler, professor of religion at Temple University, were told they would meet with members of campus student, faculty, and administrative groups, and various interest groups and would, b interviewed at an open meeting t which anyone could attend. Every candidate accep- ted Haverford's invitation. "WE FELT IT was par- ticularly important because this is a community, and we do tend to go by consensus along Quaker lines, that we could not hide these people from the community. They had to have their shot," said Haverford's secretary, John Gould. * "Anyone who wasn't willing to risk that (public interviews), wasn't ready to be our president," he said.. Any member of the college's 1,100 students, faculty and staff who participated in the inter- views could submit written evaluations of the candidates. When the judgments were collec- ted by the search committee, it was clear that no candidate had received overwhelming support from the college's constituents, Gould said. The committee then decided not to recommend any of the candidates to the school's Board of Managers (comparable to University Regents). Instead, a fifth candidate was invited to the campus. Robert D. Stevens, a Tulane University provost, received great support from the different campus groups, and was chosen as president. ACCORDING TO Harleston, the ramifications of failing to receive the job were not serious. "There are no shackles on me," he said. "No one held it By Leonard Bernstein against me." Grabois admitted he acquiesced to the Haverford in- terview process unwillingly, but "I felt it was something. I was willing to do, given Haverford's requirements." Grabois also said that public knowledge that he might leave Williams did not af- fect his working relationship with colleagues at Williams when he wasn't chosen to head Haverford. AT THE University of Florida in Gainesville, current president Robert Marston, the sole can- didate recommended by the school's selection committee, was interviewed publicly before he was selected by the Board of Regents in December 1973. Under the state's "sunshine law," all policy conducted by the Regents must be done openly. Marston then issued a directive that the selection of lower-level officers be done in the same manner. University of Florida spokesman Hugh Cunningham was quick to admit that some potential candidates may have chosen not to participate in selec- tions processes because of the public nature of the proceedings. But Cunningham said the law "hasn't hurt." "We have gotten some of the best people in these positions we've ever had in the history of the university," Cunningham said. It is clear that public inter- views of presidential candidates is the most responsible policy the Regents can follow. By opening up the interviewing of finalists to the entire University community, the Regents can promote a wider diversity of opinions about the candidates, and help bring dif- fering University factions together under the next president. Night Editor Leonard Bern- stein covers the presidential search process for the Daily. interviews Letters Senate must keep d C i 4 a To the Daily: Within the next several days, the Michigan Senate will be voting on the Wetlands Protec- tion Bill. This vote will determine whether Michigan's wetlan- ds-which include bogs, swamps, floodplains, and coastal mar- shes-will receive protection from the state Department of Natural Resources (DNR), or will continue to be destroyed at space and wildlife. Besides these recreational benefits, wetlands also provide other essential benefits to society at large. By acting as a holding basin for stormwater, wetlands provide effective natural flood control. Wetlands recharge groundwater systems with fresh water and thus keep wells producing. All in all, the wetlands provide economic benefits that makes sense , to prohibi private developments whi off the public of our w heritage. Now is the time to act this valuable public resou must tell our state senat we will not allow theF resource to be squande private gain. Take the1 call Lansing, and let you be heard. Wetlands it those alone among critics with the iich rip- authority to expouse such un- ietlands complimentary remarks as calling the "Bernstein-Comden- to save Green collaboration a creaky, rce!We prehistorical behemoth," ors that perhaps he belongs on a better people's newspaper staff than the Daily's. red for Certainly it would be to your ad- time to vantage to purge yourself of this ur voice sloppy and self-indulgent writer who has neither the experience