w4mp eSKLAR..0 . I 4, F + X. (Continued from page 3) laid aside the manuscript for nearly eight years. When he picked it up again he wrote in a different style about a different Huck. MARK TWAIN had succumbed to what Poirier calls the environ- ment of force, as opposed to the writer's own created environment of freedom. Later writers like Edith Wharton and Dreiser fall victim so completely to the environment of force that they could imagine no freedom at all for their characters. But Poirier does not see things get- ting worse or getting better. The en- vironment of force worked as pow- erfully in Melville. And the environ- ment of freedom has been more re- cently created by Faulkner and Fitz- gerald, even, as Poirier sees it, by Mailer and Nabokov.. American literature as "poignantly heroic." But Coriolanus was also a poignant hero in Shakespeare's play, when, banished from Rome, he cried Despising, For you, the city, thus I turn my back. There is a world elsewhere. Coriolanus's fate is tragic, and Poir- ier, taking his title from these lines, intimates that the fate of personal freedom in American literature is tragic, too. For all that I admire Poirier's book, my own preference lies still with Lawrence and Bewley, with the possibility that the creation of per- sonal freedom in American litera- ture can touch society and affect it. It seems to me that Poirier places too absolutem and uncritical a faith in the transcendentalist notion of the self. One doesn't have to be a behavior- ist or a sociologist (bad people, in But over all Poirier solations. Obviously offers he no con- regards the eyes of critics like Poirier, be- cause they try to build systems) to want a sharper, more thorough treatment of the romantic-mystic self than Poirier gives it. What after all does the self consist of? What are the sources of its power? What the best method of expression? Poirier simply takes for granted that there are reservoirs of self that get re- leased in those privileged, transitory moments - thence to melt away in ordinary environments. William James was transcendentalist enough to want to ask those questions from a psychological point of view, to try to revamp the old doctrines if pos- sible and give them new relevance for his own time. Nearly all the great American writers took their basic attitudes toward the self, directly or indirect- ly, from transcendentalism. But few accepted that idea of the self as thoroughly as Poirier does. One may read the works of Melville, of Haw- thorne, of Henry James, even of Fitzgerald, and come away suspect- nig that in their novels the tran- SOUL RE) (Continuedd from page 5) plays upon the ignorance of the white people. Powell is just a reversal of Wal- lace . . . Powell means God. HOW do you feel when you see girls you know going out with white guys? Does that bother you? It wouldn't bother me. You see all these hippies, fake hippies. It seems like the thing to do used to be dating a person of another religion. Now, it's a person of anoth- er race. I just question the sincerity of it sometimes. A lot of times when you see a white guy dating a colored girl, you won- der about the feelings of the guy toward the girl. Somehow when you see a Negro out with a white girl you're hoping he is exploiting her. The white male has been fooling around with the Negro female from time immemorial. You just wonder about it sometimes, whether the relationship is real. You see these white guys coming down, just to know what it's like. You see white girls and you figure they just want to know what it's like, too. Then, too, there is sort of a mar- tyr complex. A guilt complex. It's like when white Peace Corps girls go to Africa. This is one of the things they learn in training-don't have this guilt complex. You are some- how relieving yourself of the injus- tice that has been done to the Negro. Some white women think that by scendentalist conception of the self, when put into practice, leads inev- itably to death or death-in-life. This is a far bleaker view of "a world elsewhere" than Poirier takes. The romantics may have believed that attaining personal authenticity was more important than the survi- val of self; those today who are preaching personal freedom, and those who are seeking it, should face up to the issue just as resolutely. BOOKS MENTIONED A World Elsewhere: The Place of Style in American-Literature, by Richard Poir- ier. Oxford, $5.75. Studies in ClassicAmerican Literature, by D. H. Lawrence. Compass paperback, $1.45 The Eccentric Design: Form in the Classic American Novel, by Marius Bew- ley. Columbia paperback, $1.95. On Revolution, by Hannah Arendt. Compass paperback, $1.65. Against Interpretation, by Susan Son- tag. Delta paperback, $1.95 The Varieties of Religious Experience, by Williams James, Mentor paperback, 75c. VOLT... giving their bodies to the Negro they are absolving themselves of the suffering that has been brought on the Negro. They take this sort of at- titude, to be a martyr, sort of lay themselves on the cross. You don't look at people as indi- viduals. You don't look at John Doe and Mary Smith, you look at black men and white girls. This process of mechanization . .. we don't look at people as individuals, we categorize them. WHAT ABOUT people in the South? Are the people down there really religious? Most of the students at Tuskegee who go to chapel are freshmen and sophomores. They love to hear Bap- tist songs. They go because they've been conditioned. I think that they go to church because they think if they don't they will be betraying their parents. The more you become economical- ly independent the more you can get away from God. The less this world is unbearable, the less you have to look for an afterlife. Church gives people a chance to exercise some of their individuality, like they can be deacons. They can get up and speak. They know that when they go into the wide world they can't say anything, just bow down. I've heard some illiterate people get up and try to express themselves. They can hold some kind of position. or ......\. UL IIVY THE VIEW FROM TH It's sort of an economic thing, I think. You find it is the white man at the bottom who is afraid of the Negro, he thinks the Negro is go- ing to push him right out of the way. Most of the whites from this class, they're very hostile, there's no telling what they'll do. The man in the high income bracket doesn't really do too much. The people he comes in contact with are all of his own social status, and he doesn't have much contact with Negroes. Same thing is true with Negroes - with plenty of money, they don't need'to be bothered with social is- sues. All these things are trivial to them. When you decide to go to a dif- ferent college even though it is an exchange program for just a year, you may jeopardize your friendships. There was one exchange student over here who i back there now. I correspond with him; he said, "You just stay over there. You know, most people say 'you've been up around those white people' now," like they're sort of uneasy. When I applied to come here I sneaked my application in. When my roommates would come in, and I was filling out my application, I would just hide it. They didn't know until the last minute. That's true. When I was home I wore a Michigan jacket and the fel- lows would come around and say, "What's that on your back, you got Michigan?" and you know, they kind of went away ther because they feel the lack of communication, they feel I wouldn't be interested in what they wanted to talk about. The whites especially, for instance a clothing store manager; my father and I were going to get a few clothes that I needed. The manager of the store said, "Where did you get that jacket?" He couldn't visualize that I was going to Michigan. It really got me. WHERE DO YOU run into trou- - ble up here? I thought one of my problems would be getting along with the whites, but the Negroes are my most trouble, because they think I'm from a primitive society down South. Ac- tually, most of their relatives are from the South. I haven't had much contact with Negroes up here either. I did for a while, but they were so cold. Right, whenever I make my en- trance they say we carry on tribal ceremonies down there . . . when they get to talking like that I shy away from them. I think they're satisfied with this world of their own, yet they feel superiority over the southern Negro. One of the attractions of Stokely is that he's not like that. He's an educated young man. He comes down South and wants to look like us, walks around and jolks with us. He's not acting like some Negroes who have a college education and don't want to associate with us. One thing a lot of people don't realize is that the black mentality, as well as the white, can be provincial and conservative. Not only is the white man conservative, narrow- minded, parochial in his interest, but the black mentality has also been affected by this attitude. Naturally, when you have a sort of revolutionary group down there trying to emphasize blackness, while the majority of the students are try- ing to get into the mainstream of white culture, they would be against anybody wearing "Afro" hairdos and trying to emphasize his Negroness. Anybody who in any way antag- onizes the white Southerner they're against. They want to be nice, to get along and don't do anything to an- tagonize the white man. The people who take on the bour- geois mentality are against SNCC the same way as people here who take on the bourgeois mentality are against VOICE. WAS THERE a time when you thought something was wrong through. You get to sort of hating that your skin is black. I think this is part of the whole Carmichael mentality-despair. The only thing you can do is go back to your blackness and somehow make it respectable and be able to live with yourself. This is how the whole black movement started. I think we're going through a per- iod where white people are going to be antagonized. You're going to have to deal with the Negro on the basis that he's not inferior, before you have a society where you don't have suspicion. I think Carmichael is saying that you have to have Negroes going down there helping; because when whites go down there is an unequal relationship; you go down there feel- ing that you have the burden on your shoulders. WHAT ABOUT your own life, do you think you'll make it? Will you go back to the South to the people you came from? I feel that I will go on and get til now- instance I thin okay. He and he a of his ir He's gooc I thinlk sort of a l er T. (V the Negr same thi: When he was reall I admil really. It through z WHAT Broo I don't Brooke, b he was ; because rights, m are enouE elect him rights. .iF.:::..'. :yv'%: ,; -' ^,. ' -,. i with FaraPresw SJfacL34 You'll sweep her off her feet in these quality Farah slacks that have muscle to match their smart style and bold new colors that are in step with today's newest fashions. Permanently pressed to "Never Need Ironing." TICE'S MEN'S SHOP 1109 S. University STUDY EXAM TIME is Outline Time Use our condensed OUTLINES_ WORRIED ? with you? Does white society strip you of your confidence? In the South, when you are a very small kid, you might get to feeling like that, because you're very im- pressionable at that age. You walk down the street and you see these white kids all hollering "Nigger, Nig- ger." When 1 was home for Christmas, I was walking down town, and there was this little girl in a car. She was just old enough tc talk, and she yell- ed "Nigger Joe" at me; and I took my little brother to the Dairy Queen, and the lady came up to me and said, "What do you want, Nigger?" She was obviously illiterate; hadn't been to school. WHAT DO YOU DO? I cursed about 20 times to myself. Most Negroes go through a period of self-hate, like Baldwin went my degree and live happily. ... You're kidding yourself. I think I'm going to make it ... on my own merit. I don't see myself failing. Opportunities. up North would be greater than in the South. I think I should go back, not to join the movement, but rather be- cause the kind of things I'm train- ing myself for I could really utilize there. I don't think I should run away from the problem, you know, but rather stay here and try to al- leviate this thing. I'm not going back until we 'get a new governor. I'll still go back, be- cause the South is needing trained personnel, Negroes especially, to get the job done, to lead the South in going where opportunities are great- er. WHAT DO YOU think of the leaders the South has had un- Do xo gro? No, he'. what whi be. WOULI ton Powell rest of th I'm afr because i I would disagree N has done around Y the dirt tl represent. the degra represent: play upor people, a demagogt (C t(CIQATRflr for EXAMS ALL SUBJECTS Ulrich's Bookstore- PAGE SIXTEEN APRIL '67 THE DAILY MAGAZINE APRIL '67 THE DAILY MAGAZINE