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THE MICHIGAN GAILY
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Tuesday, October 14, 1969 THE MICHIGAN DAILY Page Seven
Student Book Service
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Oct. 15
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Sinclair, Argus defense fund
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By ROB BIER
Some 130 students filled South
Quad's West Lounge last night to
hear President Robben Fleming
discuss the LSA sit-in, the war
moratorium, black enrollment and
other topics in an informal "open
forum."
One issue that got plenty of
play was the bookstore and the
action at, as Fleming called it,
"the LSA incident." When con-
fronted with allegations of police
brutality by students who had been
arrested, President Fleming re-
plied, "This isn't what I get from
all the people I've talked to, in-
cluding students who were there."
On the matter of whether the
police displayed excessive force
with their show of rifles, he an-
swered, "Sheriff Douglas Harvey
can cone on campus without gain-
ing my permission. It is within his
jurisdiction. What he uses is also
his decision and I have publicly
disagreed with him on it. One of
the hazards that students must
face wvhen they're contemplating
this type of action is that they're
Residential College in cancelling
all classes. Such a decision forces
people to take action which they
might not agree with," he said.
Fleming took pains to explain
the complicated problems conect-
ed with military research and its
relation to the military. "A great
many kinds of basic research will
have war implications as well as
civilian ones," and he used the
example of infra-red research to
demonstrate his point.
"As for classified research," he
continued, "it is really a matter of
definition. If a researcher has a
certain security clearance, the
project is classified even if his'
work is in no way related to thatj
All this must be taken into con-
sideration before concluding any-
thing about the nature of a par-
ticular project."
In all, it was a congenial hour
and a half, which, if nothing else,
gave President Fleming a chance
to meet the students in the re-
laxed manner which has become
part of his style. In closing, he
commented on the University's re-
lation to the public. "This is an
era in which the public is very
hostile to the universities," he
said. "It is nonsense for students
to take the attitude that the pub-
lic doesn't care how the University
is run and it is equal nonsense for
the public to think that the stu-
By ERIKA HOFF
Claiming "you can't get justice
unless you can buy it with money,"
poet Allen Ginsberg will be reading
his poetry in the Ann Arbor-De-
troit area to raise money for the
legal defense funds of the Ann
Arbor Argus and White Panther,
leader John Sinclair.
White Panther Party Minister
of Education Skip Taube said ef-
forts to free Sinclair are seriously
hampered because lawyers have
not been able to work full-time on
the case. "We've given the lawyers
$2,000 already, but this is for years
of work and they have to make a
living too."
police and federal narcotics agents historically by the Weathermen-
are pushers and that the major they are escalating the violence
police forces in the country have that was started by the Chicago
close ties with the Mafia; so it is police during the 1968 convention."
not completely paranoid to assume "The Weathermen are probably
that a policy as absurd as pot all people who have been busted
control is a product of these po- and beaten by cops before."
lice-Mafia ties, designed to insure The basic cause for society's ills,
their business in hard drugs." according to Ginsberg, is the pol-
Ginsberg also lays the blame luted planet we inhabit. "People
for the lack or "law and order" can't help but be poisoned by this
in society on the police. Police environment."
violence spawns further violence, He cited the work of a British
he said, and "the police will have scientist who he said has at-
to de-escalate if they any want tributed violent behavior to an ac-
any sort of law and order to cumulation of DDT in the liver.
exist." We have about 5 years left,
While not condoning the violent Ginsberg said, before the ecologi-
actions of the Weathermen in Chi- cal demise of the planet earth.
cago last week, Ginsberg did say "The only hope is to realize the
that "the violence was not started hopelessness before it is too late,"
New Mobe optimistic as
moratorium plans finalize
clearance. Or, the instruments dents should not have a say in
used may be of a classified nature. that same process."
SAC UA ajpf
for discount
Conti nedf ton Pa e n 1)
the under standing that students
In a press conference yesterday
Ginsberg said Sinclair's case clear-
ly will be thrown out in the U.S.
Supreme Court, but the police want
to "put him through the wringer"'
kstore }of expensive, prolonged litigation.
Ginsberg also cited the cases of
ceiving longer term loans fromteBenamin Spck-Wia
creditors. But McLaughlin w a s:;i conspiracy trial anf the "chi-I
pleased with the overall plan. rent conspiracystrial of thea Chi-
j cgo8" s nstncs f wat h
going to face these difficulties." would be assessed to reimburse!
On the issue of increased black the University. The proposal re-
enrollment at the University,
Fleming was expansive. "We've
probably got 1000 black students.
That's not a large number. We
should have more." The talk then
moved into a discussion of money,
a favoritecrallying point. In this
case, the cost of special programs'
for disadvantaged students was
discussed.
The recent stand of the Black
Law Students Association in favor
of more black students and fac-
ulty in the school came up. Flem-
ing responded, "I'm not familiar
with this particular action, but the
important thing for the professors
is not their color. We want teach-
e's who can do the best job. If
five, or even 20 of them are black,
fine."
It was inevitable that the mora-
torium should come up, and when
it did, Fleming began by reciting
Vice-President for Academic Af-
fairs Allen Smith's letter concern-
ing faculty prerogatives. He then
defended it on the basis of allow-
ing free speech. "I would have
been opposed to the action of the
iluugn tT agreea unaay cailed simria t picai ars
leases the University from financ- to assess students to pay for any ment.
}al liability, debts the store incurred, this sec- "It cost Spock $150,000 in legal
SGC feared the store would not tion of the proposal was turned fees by the time he was through
obtain as much credit on books down at yesterday's joint talks. even though he was found in-
from publishers unless the pub- In order to supplement the ini- nocent." Ginsberg said this typeof-
lishers were assured that a trust- tial capitalization, SGC will seek harrassment is itself "conspiracy
worthy institution like the Uni- low interest loans from various to deprive people of their civil'
versity was ready to step in to sources, including the University. rights.
pay any debts. Another addition to the pro- "It represents everything that
However, SACUA chairman posal stipulates that the s t o r e this country is not supposed to be,
Prof. Joseph Payne countered that merge with the SGC discount and everything that the iron cur-
the board could not realistically store "at a time to be decided by tain is."
expect to control the store unless the bookstore board." The former Ginsberg said he intends to try,
it was willing to bear the brunt of draft had stated that the merger and get support for Sinclair;
financial risks. take place "eventually." Mc- among members of the Interna-
SACUA Vice-Chairman P r o f . Laughli estimated the merger will tional Pen Club--"an elite asso-,
Robert Knauss, a member of the occur by the end of the first year ciation of published writers"-be-
ad hoc committee, said he felt of bookstore operations. cause Sinclair is "basically being
the initial $300,000 in capital - punished for his articulation"
raised from a mandatory five-dol- The marijuana charge was just
lar deposit from students and fa- $20,000 to BUS Ad an excuse to get Sinclair out of
culty plus $100,000 in parking the way, Ginsberg said, and he
fees -- would provide a good in- The Alcoa Foundation awarded added marijuana control laws are
dication of the store's financial a two-year, $20,000 grant to the kept on the books by police and
status University's School of Business Mafia members who depend on
SGC President Marty McLaughAdministration. The funds will be them for their livelihood.
li C responded that the lack of used to strengthen course offerings "When pot gets tight, people
in industrial marketing and to start getting into harder drugs,"
University credit may damage the make research and teaching ma- Ginsberg said. "It has also been
store's prospect of initially re- terials available to other business proven that a large portion of
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Diversified programs run by
University departments concern-
ing aspects of the war related to
the field of the department will be
run throughout the day.
While plans were being finaliz-
ed yesterday, the protest contin-
off all of tomorrow's RC classes,
however.
In an action similar to that of
the 215 RC students, 70 out of
154 residents of Martha C a o k
agreed last night to skip their
meals at the dorm to donate their
food costs to New Mobe.
ued to gain support throughout Several seminars concerning the
the University, and many more war and U.S. policy were ,also
activities relating to the morator- scheduled last night.
ium were scheduled last night. Engineering Counicl last night
In the Residential College, 215 made plans to present six semin-
of a possible 495 students h av ears dealing with the war and its
agreed not to eat in the quad to- relation to engineers. Organizers
morrow in order to contribute the of the discussions stressed that the
cost of their food to New Mobe. seminars were not meant to re-
place classes and that the coun-
Some non-academic staff mem- cil was not ;endorsing either the
bers in the RC also agreed yes- moratorium or any kind of strike.
terday not to work tomorrow and In addition, all six Democratic
to contributetheir day's pay o city councilmen plus Mayor Ro-
bert Harris released a statement
the college who will pass it on to supporting the moratorium a n d
New Mobe. petitioning Ann Arbor's congres-
Representative Assembly will sional representatives and Presi-
also consider tonight whether or dent Nixon to "cause immediate,
not it should repeal last week's unilateral withdrawal of all Uni-
motion o f f i c i a 11 y calling ted States troops from Vietnam."
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