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'U' Debaters
To Begin
Fall Meets
The University Varsity Debate
Team will hold organizational
meetings at 4 and 7 p.m. today in
Rm. 2040 of the Frieze Building.
The team will take part in de-
bates on current issues, including
right-to-work laws, the ban on
nuclear weapons, federal college
scholarships and American versus
Russian educational systems.
Students who join the team will
gain experience in the fundamen-
tals of debate through discussion
of techniques of research, organi-
zation, argumentation and pre-
sentation of evidence.
Members will have the oppor-
tunity of debating with represen-
tatives from other Big Ten and
Michigah universities. They will
also participate in intramural de-
bates- with campus groups and
will hold debates for high school
clinics and service organizations
throughout the state.
Any interested student may at-
tend the meetings at which plans
for the semester will be outlined.

WIVES:
Women
Announce
New Club
"The Engineer's Wives of the
University of Michigan," a new
club which is open to the wife of
any graduate or undergraduate
student at the University, will
meet for the first time at 8 p.m.
Oct. 7 in Lane Hall, Mrs. Shirley
Graesley, publicity chairman, an-
nounced today.
The wife of any instructor or
professor in the engineering school
is automatically an honorary
member said Mrs. Graesley. Mem-
bership in the organization can be
obtained at the first meeting where
Prof. John Young and one of the
Assistant Deans of the engineering
school will be the guest speakers.
The purpose of the organization
shall be to acquaint the wives of
engineering students with various
fields of engineering, thus enabling
them to better understand the
work of their husbands and to also
promote fellowship among engi-
neer's wives, Mrs. Graesley said.

Family Size Is Same
In All Income Groups

The idea that poorer people4
have larger families is being con-
fronted with evidence that all
income groups are having about
the same number of children, ac-
cording to Research Associate
David Goldberg of the University's
Institute of Public Administration.
Goldberg's conclusions, arrived
at after a year's study of popula-
tion and ecology records compiled
by the University's Detroit Area
Study and various other reports,
coincide with a recent fertility
study by the University's Survey
Research Center.
Factors Change
Certain factors affect family
size and decision change as the
family grows, Goldberg said.
Earily in marriage, close home
and k dinsip ties are important
when considering additional chil-
dren.
Later, after a couple has two or
three children, the question be-
comes similar to that of purchas-
ing a luxury item, such as a' new
car: "Can ; we afford another
child?"
Whether the husband or wife is
the chief decision-maker, in the
individual family, -is likely to
determine whether or not there
will be a large or small family, he
added.
"Men, it appears, are primarily
influenced by socio-economic in-
dicators such as status and in-
come. For instance, if a man is

earning $12,000 and thinks he ,can
afford more children, the couple
will have them if the husband is
the chief decision-maker
Participation Affects Wife
"But, he continued, we also have
to look at the wife as decision-
maker. A woman is influenced by
the extent to which there will be
participation in kinship and
whether she likes to spend her
leisure time around the home,"'
Goldberg explained.
However, Goldberg said, as a
man (and his family) ascend the
status scale, competition for the
wife's leisure time crops up and,
in her role as decision makers she
must decide whether her leisure
will be home-centered or activity-
centered.
Goldberg scalled , these factors
the "cancelling effect" within the
high status family, processes in
favor of more children and those
working against more; children
tend to cancel each other.
"We think our basic. findings
show involvement in family af-
fairs may not be applicable to
urban societies alone, but to other
cultures also," he said.
"We'd like to try a cross-culture
analysis of fertility, one that might
have practical implications which
may be helpful in understanding
population problems in underde-
veloped areas," Goldberg con-,
cluded.

Folk Singer
Elly Stone
To Appear,
Folksinger Elly Stone will pre-
sent a progr'am of "Songs' of Love
and Laughter the World Over" at
8 p.m. tonight in the Glick Social
Hall of the B'nai B'rith Hillel
Foundation.
The program, which is open to
the public, will include a number
of characterizations by Miss Stone
as she offers .her renditions of
Italian, Israeli, Oriental, French
and American folksongs. and bal-
lads.
Miss Stone has gained critical
praise for her versatility in per-
formances with Tom Lehrer at
Carnegie Hall and with Josh White
and Jo Mapes at the Gate of Horn
in- Chicago.
She has interrupted a New York
engagement to appear at Hillel.
Association,
Elects Nielson
vice-P residCent
Director of University Relations
Lyle M. Nelson was elected vice-
president of the American College
Public Relations Association at
the annual meeting in San Fran-
cisco from July 27 to July 31.
The Association has 1200 mem-
bers representing most of the
colleges and universities in the
country, Nelson said. It tries to
improve efficiency and pass along
information which will benefit the
members.
Nelson's job as vice-president
will be to coordinate the sections
which make up the association:
development and fund raising,
communications, medical public
relations and administration.
In October, Nelson said, he will
go to Washington, D.C. for the
executive committee meeting.
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