24 | JANUARY 20 • 2022 

T

he Rabbi and The Shrink is a pod-
cast that’s aptly named.
With a mission of advancing 
a global discussion on everything eth-
ics, from ethics in business to ethics in 
relationships, the podcast — which is, of 
course, hosted by a rabbi and a shrink 
— aims to teach people moral principles 
while improving understanding of differ-
ent perspectives.
“It’s nice to have people who you can 
disagree with to show how to have civil 
conversations and wisdom,” explains 
Taylor-based psychologist and podcast 

co-host Dr. Margarita Gurri, 
a Cuban refugee who learned 
firsthand how important it 
is to be ethical. Growing up, 
Gurri experienced bullying 
and prejudice, which taught 
her the value of traits like 
respect, honesty and accep-
tance.
As the COVID-19 pandemic put ethics 
into question, especially on social media, 
Gurri, who focuses on conflict, crisis and 
ethics in her career, knew something had 
to be done. “You can’t just sculpt people,” 

she says, “so I wanted to create a podcast 
[about ethics].”

BRIDGING DIFFERENT CULTURES
The next step was finding the 
perfect partner and co-host to 
build a podcast with. In think-
ing about people to reach 
out to, Gurri remembered St. 
Louis-based Rabbi Yonason 
Goldson, an Orthodox rabbi 
and keynote ethics speaker 
whom she met at a virtual 
ethics panel in May 2020.

Orthodox Jewish rabbi and Catholic Cuban psychologist talk ethics in new podcast.
The Rabbi and the Shrink

ASHLEY ZLATOPOLSKY CONTRIBUTING WRITER

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Rabbi 
Yonason 
Goldson

Dr. 
Margarita 
Gurri

