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Hungarian campaign went
up significantly. And the
anti-Semitism in the Labour
Party just got louder and
louder and louder, and here
in the United States we then
had shootings. I felt like we
were playing Whack-A-Mole
because we couldn’
t keep up
with the reports. And every
time we would want to close
off a section, something new
would happen and we’
d find
ourselves chasing a statistic or
a quote.
JN: You were one of the only
filmmakers allowed into the
Tree of Life Synagogue in
Pittsburgh to talk to people
after the shooting.
Goldberg: We were just very
respectful in our requests,
and they were ultimately
granted. And we didn’
t want
to re-traumatize anybody. I
mean, it was a very import-
ant thing for us to do it in as
sensitive a way as we possibly
could.
JN: And how did you inter-
view the survivors sensitive-
ly? That must’
ve been really
difficult.
Goldberg: It wasn’
t so much
that the interviews were
sensitive ... We knew that
Pittsburgh was going to be
— that Pittsburgh is still —
traumatized by this event.
We wanted to present it in a
somewhat neutral and calm
way. We didn’
t want to sort of
weigh in with any extensive
descriptions…
This film is unlike many,
many others because you’
re
pulling in issues of race, issues
of religion, issues of very pas-
sionate ideas and ideologies,
politics from many, many
countries, the Arab-Israeli
conflict … I mean, everything
is so careful. But you’
re never
going to get it right. It’
s like
walking a tightrope. The right
people say you’
re too far to
the left and the left people
say you’
re too far to the right,
and the progressives say that
you’
re too sympathetic to
capitalism and the capitalists
say you’
re too sympathetic to
socialism. And it just never
ends … there’
s no real place
to stand. It’
s impossible.
JN: What is your target audi-
ence for this film?
Goldberg: I think that it’
s
important that as many
people see it as possible, so
they’
re educated… I believe
that the well-informed popu-
lace is really the best starting
place to move forward.
Viral: Antisemitism in Four Mutations
premieres on PBS May 26 and will
be available for streaming on PBS
Passport following its TV debut.
“You’re never going to get it
right. It’s like walking a tight-
rope. And it just never ends …
There’s no real place to stand.
It’s impossible.”
— ANDREW GOLDBERG
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