giveaway! Visit the JN’s Facebook page or thejewishnews.com for the chance to win a pair of tickets to see Matisyahu at St. Andrew’s Hall. JN: Back when you were dressing as a chasid, were you concerned people focused more on your reli- gious outlook than on your music? M: When I started, my focus was completely on just myself. My thought wasn’t that I was going to get boxed in as this thing. I just said, “This is what I’m into.” I’m into reggae music, I got really into Judaism. I’ve been on this journey, and I put it into my music. It’s all very real to me. And I knew there would be a surprise element that would catch people and they would be like, “Oh, shit, I didn’t realize that ‘this’ could do ‘this,’” and I knew that would work to my benefit, but it was all very real to me. I was coming right out of yeshivah and studying Tanya on the plane to L.A. and going right to the rabbi’s house. It wasn’t until later on when I shaved and the internet was more of a thing that I began to read comments and I was like, “Wow, this whole thing became the beard itself.” The reason I grew the beard was to get away from this whole materialistic way of being, and then I real- ized my whole identity had formed around the beard and it was the idol — and, therefore, I realized I needed to get rid of it. JN: How has your music changed as your religious observance has changed? When you were more obser- vant, religious Jews looked at you as somewhat of an icon. Do you think that as your observance has changed you’ve become an icon for those who are more progres- sive about their religion? M: My music has connected to people going through all dif- ferent types of things. I think there are people who have been boxed in or thought they were trapped in something — religion or some other aspect of their life — and my Akeda album was about breaking out. It seems like people con- nected to that in a big way. At some point, it’s about how deep it connects rather than how widely it connects. JN: Your song “One Day” became an anthem for Jewish summer camps and Birthright Israel groups. Do you consider yourself a Jewish leader? M: I don’t think of myself in those terms. I think about just living my life and what I’m going through and trying to put it into my music as purely and authentically as possible. Everything else, in terms of politics and being a leader — or not being a leader — is not really something I have too much control over, so I don’t really think about it. JN: In “One Day,” you sing about what the world could become in a very hopeful, optimistic message of peace. Is that your theology coming through? Is that a song about the messianic hope? M: Well, at the time, yeah. The idea of [singing about] prayer [as] an anthem for peace for the world and hav- ing it backed by my religion — because there is that mes- sianic concept in Judaism and certainly in the circles I ran in — that was a big deal. At this point, it’s less about the mes- sianic message and more about me trying to pass some positiv- ity into the world. JN: What do you love about coming to Detroit, a city that like Matisyahu, has been on a transformative journey lately? M: I have a song on the new album called “Back to the Old” — I think Detroit is one of those cities where young people who left the city have a real pride in it and return when they’re older. And my first paid gig ever was in Detroit — at the Detroit Auto Show for Volkswagen. Every hour on the hour, I would play music at the Volkswagen display. JN: Do any of your four kids have your musical tal- ents? M: My oldest son [age 12] has a strong voice and he loves recording stuff. All my kids love music though. JN: Tell me about the mis- hap at the Maccabi Games in Alabama this past summer, in which Jewish teens posted cellphone video footage of you pushing kids off the stage. It seemed like there wasn’t ample security. What’s your impression of what hap- pened? M: I literally haven’t spoken about this once before. When it first happened, I didn’t want to comment; I just wanted to stay away from it. That was an acoustic show and there were a lot of people there. There were thousands of teenagers there and they were ready to party. I don’t know if people heard Matisyahu’s coming and they think it’s going to be a rock show, and we’ll get to jump on stage and stage dive. These teenagers, I mean, I don’t know how many of them actually follow my music. They might have sung “One Day” at sum- mer camp or seen a video of me going crazy on stage. The real- ity of the situation was there were two 40-year-old guys on stage on stools — me and my guitar player. It was not a rock show. If [the organizers of the event] know there’s going to be a bunch of raging hormonal teenagers there, they should have had a rock band — or paid for me to have my rock band there. People started getting up on stage, [acting] totally entitled. In this situation, a girl got up on stage and started taking selfies with me in the middle of the show. I take my art seri- ously and … I always try to get into that zone and create something real. It’s not my job to throw them off the stage, but no one was doing it. These kids don’t know what they’re doing. I could have just stopped, I guess. Then basically when I saw someone about to crush hundreds of dollars’ worth of [my guitar player’s] pedals, I was like all right, that’s the limit, and I just tried to stop it. It’s a learning experience. jn JN: What have been the high points of your career? M: There’ve been some great moments. The time I got to go on stage at Bonnaroo [Music and Arts Festival] 2005 with Trey [Anastasio of Phish] sing- ing “No Woman No Cry.” That was a definite high point. I also got to sing “Roxanne” with Sting at Ramat Gan Stadium in Tel Aviv. That was incredible. Those are probably the two big- gest artists that I got to sit in with in big stadiums. One of the memories just popping into my head was after the whole BDS thing in Spain [he was uninvited to the 2015 Tototom Sunsplash reggae fes- tival after refusing to publicly endorse Palestinian statehood]. Coming to Israel a month later and the warm feeling I got from everyone in Israel was very spe- cial for me. JN: Where are you 30 years down the road? M: Hopefully I will have stayed on top of my health and I’ll still have a voice and still be singing and writing music. I’ll still, God willing, be doing what I’m doing right now. But I don’t even know what I’ll be doing after Dec. 15 when I get home from tour. • details Matisyahu, with guests Common Kings, brings his Broken Crown Tour to St. Andrew’s Hall in Detroit Tuesday, Dec. 12. All ages. $27.50/advance; $33/door. Ticketmaster.com. December 7 • 2017 63