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mind. "She has always been my ideal
of what a woman should be," Grodin
says. "She is warm and sweet and all-
around wonderful."
Zusman says the admiration is
mutual. "We were very close growing
up in Pittsburgh," says Zusman,
whose husband, Paul, an optometrist,
died in 1991.
"Our families even lived together for
a while. We don't have a chance to
speak to each other very often, but we
have a special bond. When Chuck's
mother turned 85, he had a birthday
party for her and invited me to
Connecticut.
"He had a limo pick me up at the air-
port and drive me all around. It was so
much fun. He even took me to a
Broadway play. He is so very caring, and
I know he is concerned for me now."
Recently the Jewish News spoke to
Grodin about his new career.
and knowledge in modern times, and
it's a tough act to follow. However, it's
an easy act to follow in terms of per-
sonal ethics and moral values.
I don't think we know yet how good
Bush's judgment will be. The problem
with being surrounded by the smartest
people, sometimes those smart people
don't agree, and then it's up to you.
But if you root against President Bush,
you are rooting against yourself.
JN: Do you find the news to be
biased against Israel?
CG: I don't like the way [news media]
described the Jews as shooting Arab
children. That is not what happened.
They were shooting at people who
were firing live ammunition, not just
throwing stones, and in the fore-
ground there were children. The
Israelis didn't say, "Let's go shoot Arab
children," but some of the evening
news shows give that impression.
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JN: What do you hope to bring to 60
Minutes II?
CG: To me, the lead stories should be:
How many people do we have in
prison who shouldn't be there and
what are we doing about it? How
many people go to bed hungry in
America? How many people are home-
less? How many people can't get prop-
er medical care?
These are important issues and
eventually I would like to talk about
them. But I have a humorous position
and there isn't anything funny about
these things, and that will be the chal-
lenge. I had a big impact on my cable
show in terms of social awareness, but
now I have a much bigger audience
and hope to rap into these issues.
JN: Do you think age matters more
in the Hollywood film industry than
in news broadcasting?
CG: In broadcasting you do hear
about age discrimination. It's an issue
that women contend with more, espe-
cially in Hollywood. But even as a
male I notice it. They took my picture
to put with the group of Sixty Minutes
II and they retouched it so I don't
have any wrinkles.
I said, "Wait a minute, I want those
wrinkles! I am a commentator. I don't
want to look like I am 30 years old."
JN: With a special interest in politics,
how do you see the country under
president George W. Bush?
CG: I think he has an ability to do
well. I put a lot of.stock in people who
get along with others, and I think he
does. But Bush is following the most
intelligent president in terms of issues
JN: Is it true that you were offered
Dustin Hoffman's role in The
Graduate?
CG: It's not completely true, but I was
the first choice.
What happened was this: Before you
do a screen test you negotiate a con-
tract. They offered me $500 a week for
The Graduate, which was strange even
for that time. I could have made double
that doing TV for a week. So I thought
it was a normal procedure to negotiate
the contract. But they were offended.
The producer called me up and said,
"Don't you realize it's an opportunity
of a lifetime?" I did, but it wasn't about
the money It seemed like the appro-
priate thing to do. The story died right
there. They thought I was going to be
difficult. But I went on to work with
Mike Nichols and I have no regrets.
JN: Other than 60 Minutes II, what
projects do you have in the works?
CG: I sat on a co-op board on Fifth
Avenue in New York and I have a play
going into rehearsal this month about
that. It's called Pending Approval. It has
a lot of Jewish themes and is about
how they find ways to exclude people.
Jewish audiences will especially like
this, and one of the producers is a
rabbi. It's basically true, and you can't
believe some of the things that go on.
A Jewish applicant might be referred
to as "Garmento," working in the gar-
ment center. And some of the people
on the board were Jewish!
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