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racist poem read to a
young child has provided
the toughest test for a
Holocaust revisionist who
is suing a U.S. Holocaust scholar and
her publisher for libel.
Discussing David Irving's "utter-
ances both in public and private on
the subject" of Jews and blacks,
Richard Rampton, Emory University
scholar Deborah Lipstadt's attorney,
accused Irving last week of teaching
his 9-month-old daughter a "racist
ditty" while taking her for a walk.
The senior London lawyer quoted
a September 1994 extract from
Irving's private journal, which he was
obliged to hand over as part of an
exchange of documents, where the
revisionist referred to a song he had
sung when "half-breed children" were
wheeled past:
"I am a Baby Aryan / Not Jewish or
Sectarian. / I have no plans to marry
an / Ape or Rastafarian."
Rampton asked: "Racist, Mr.
Irving? Antisemitic, Mr. Irving?"
Irving: "I don't think so."
Rampton: "Teaching your little

Reparations
Tax Exempt?

Washington (JTA) — President
Clinton's proposed federal budget
includes an item that would make all
moneys received as Holocaust repara-
tions tax exempt.
Legislation providing this exemption
was first proposed in 1998.

Antisemitism
Charges Aired

New York (JTA) — A former CIA
employee who claims he was fired from
the agency because he is a religious Jew
was featured on a segment of CBS' "60
Minutes" recently.
Adam Ciralsky charged that the
agency's counterintelligence investi-

child this kind of poison?"
Irving: "Do you think a 9-month-
old can understand ..."
Rampton: "The poor little child is
being taught a racist ditty by her per-
verted, racist father."
Irving: "I am not a racist."
The dramatic exchange came mid-
way through the trial of Lipstadt and
Penguin Books, who are alleged to
have libeled Irving in Lipstadt's 1994
book Denying the Holocaust: The
Growing Assault on Truth and
Memory.
Irving, 62, who denies that Jews
were systematically exterminated at
Auschwitz, is claiming that Lipstadt
ruined his career by labeling him a
Holocaust denier and accusing him of
distorting historical data to suit his
ideological predilections.
Rampton asked Irving about his
1997 book, A Radical's Diary, in
which he attacked Jews for their
greed.
"They clamor, 'Ours! Ours! Ours!'
when hoards of gold are uncovered,"
wrote Irving. "And then when anti-
semitism increases and the inevitable
mindless pogroms occur, they ask
with genuine surprise, 'Why us?'"
Irving, who is representing himself,
was also asked about a media inter-

gators ignored all secular information
about him while focusing on his reli-
gion. He said they focused on his
travels to Israel rather than a trip he
made to China.
"I lived in China for a summer,"
he said. "They could have cared less
whether I was associating with
known Communists, but they were
incredibly concerned about who sold
me a falafel sandwich." Meanwhile, a
CIA memo charged that Ciralsky
failed two lie-detector tests about
whether he gave or sold U.S. secrets
to Israel.

Brandeis Gets
$20 Million

New York (JTA) — Brandeis
University recently received a $20
million gift that is believed to be the

