JN: To whom did you gear this book? RM: This book is intended for people who listen to classical music and want to have some further understanding of how these performances come about. The performances that we see are products of a long series of events, beginning three years before [the program] with the early planning stages, preliminary talk about casting and that sort of thing. Jim and I wanted to create some insight into what the creative process is like. thing a weekly magazine found a few years ago when they were going to write a feature on him. They aban- doned it because the writer they assigned came back and said, 'He's too nice. I can't get anything that makes a colorful story.''') RM: He went to Meadow Brook right at the beginning, and he was there for four years, from '68 to '72. During the time he was at Meadow Brook, he directed concert performances of Rigoletto and II Trovatore. He didn't just come in for one performance and go. He was around for a little while. JN: Does, Suzanne Thomson, whom he met in Michigan, continue to per- form? RM: I'm under the impression that she JN: What did you learn about Levine from doing the book? RM: What I learned is his total dedi- other conductors. Half the music he is playing in the upcoming season with the Munich Philharmonic Orchestra [where he'll spend 10 weeks a year over several years] is real 20th-century music. JN: What has he brought to opera in the United States? RM: An affirmation that you must be faithful to the composer's intentions to the highest degree is the very essence JN: What attitudes toward music do the two of you share? RM: The root of it all is a common dedication to music. Jim and I do not regard classical music as entertain- ment. Classical music is the highest art. You don't turn to it to be amused. You turn to it to find out things about vour inner self and to look for tran- scendent experience. In that respect, music is very similar to religion. JN: How did the two of you first meet and how did your friendship develop? RM: I first met him during a rehearsal of the Cleveland Orchestra in 1965. I knew he was the assistant conductor of the orchestra, and I was there working on a history of the orchestra published the following year. We started talking and found great satisfaction in exchang- ing ideas. As soon as he appeared at Ravinia, we saw a lot of one another. JN: Did the two of you come to an agreement about the book before you Above: Levine, conducting the University Circle Orchestra, Cleveland started working on it? Institute of Music, 1968. During the same period, Detroiters first RM: It wasn't anything that formal. became aware of his talent at the Meadow Brook Music Festival. The two of us were in agreement that Right, top: Eleven-year-old James Levine shows his parents his model the book should be about music and center on his professional career. Jim is set for "Barber of Seville," 1954. a very private person, which I accept Right, middle: Levine with Leonard Bernstein, colleague, friend because I'm a rather private person. It and neighbor with whom he frequently dined on the Jewish holidays. must not be inferred that he is private because he has something to conceal. Right, bottom: In October 1997, Levine received the National My impression is that his life is actual- Medal of Arts from President Clinton at the White House. ly very conventional. We decided that we would not pay any great amount of cation to the music, his commitment still plays the oboe. Jim has a piano at attention to things that he considers to to excellence and his notion of home and is playing piano all the time. be basically irrelevant to artistic issues, growth. He feels that we can't stand I don't know for certain, but I would and I was happy to go along with that. still. We're either going forward or imagine there is a little informal cham- He feels that the public owns the backward. Going forward means ber playing with musicians that they artist as he is appearing in a public intense concentration and evaluation know. I don't think she has any further role as performer. But what the artist in the most uncompromising terms. desire to-appear publicly. She was a stu- does when he is not playing a public He doesn't like to repeat pieces unless dent when they met. A student orches- role is pretty much the artist's own he feels he has something new to tra was starting at Meadow Brook, and business, providing, of course, that bring to them. she auditioned. She was hired instantly it is in harmony with the accepted In all of his career, Levine has because she was so good. social mores of the day. For instance, never played the Tchaikovsky Fifth if Jim prefers to go swimming rather Symphony because he just doesn't feel JN: Do you have information about than play tennis, who cares? (As his he has anything to bring to it that Levine's early performances in mother, Helen Levine, says in the hasn't been heard many times from Michigan? book: "I think he suffers from some- of what he's doing. It's not only the way the music is played; it's the way that things are staged. JN: Do you think the concert with The 3 Tenors opens opera to more people than would otherwise listen to it? RM: "The 3 Tenors" concert, as I see it, is nothing new. It's part of an old, old tradition. If we go back to the early years of the century, we find Enrico Caruso barnstorming all over the country demanding $5,000 a night, which was a lot of money in those days. 7/9 1999 Detroit Jewish News EL