that composers, especially composer- lyricists like I am, bring an interpreta- tion to the song that nobody else real- ly can bring because it's exactly the way the songwriter intended it to be. JN: How did you decide which songs to include? JH: I knew I had to do all the songs that the public wanted to hear so there was no question that we would do "Hello, Dolly," "Mame," "If He Walked Into My Life" and "The Best of Times." The only thing I had to do was choose some of the more obscure songs to pepper the evening. I chose, for example, "Penny in My Pocket," which was cut from Hello, Dolly!, and "Mrs. S. L. Jacobowsky," which is from The Grand Tour and very funny. It's an interesting mixture of songs, and in some cases, audiences have actually sung along with us. When I hear a little chorus in the audience,_ it's really kind of wonderful. JN: Is there one song — or more than one song — that you especially relate to on a personal basis, one that expresses your general outlook or attitudes? JH: In the middle of Act II, I sing a song from The Grand Tour — it's one of the few things I sing myself— called "I'll. Be Here Tomorrow." It really is my personal theme song because I've gone through two major illnesses that I've conquered, shows that didn't run and were disappoint- ments to me and the personal tragedies that we all go through in life. The philosophy in "I'll Be Here Tomorrow" is my own personal phi- losophy even thou 't write it with myself in min - JN: Is there one character, or more than one, that you especially enjoyed writing songs for? JH: Mame was my favorite character because she reminded me so much of my mother. Mame was glamorous, - funny, charming, witty, liberal and all the things that my mother was. It was very easy for me to write for her because I knew that lady personally. JN: What will audiences know about you after seeing this show that they might not have known before? JH: I tell a lot of backstage anecdotes — little stories (such as) how I got the job of writing Hello, Dolly and how I switched careers from architecture to music and lyrics — and the audience definitely goes home knowing much more about Jerry. JN: Would you tell us any of the Jewish stories? JH: The whole Milk and Honey expe- rience was delightful for me because here was this very American boy, even though I grew up in a Jewish home with parents extremely active in Jewish causes, being offered this show which was to be set in Israel. When the pro- ducer asked if I knew anything about -Israeli music, I said, "Of course I do," but I did- n't know the first thing about it. I just wanted the job. What I did was use the feelings of the Hebrew songs I heard my mother teach at the Jewish Community Center in Jersey City. It was a very personal experience to be able to write my first Broadway musical with an Israeli theme. fascinating starting with Gershwin and going on to Bernstein and Sondheim and Kander and Ebb and Charles Strouse. It goes on and on, and they're all Jewish. You can't tell me that's an accident. I definitely think it's genetic, kind of a miracle that gives people like me the ability to do that. My second cousin is Jerry-Bock, who wrote Fiddler on the Roof, now, that has to tell you something. JN: Do you think the songs from Milk and Honey have a message in the year of Israel's 50th anniversary? JH: The title song says: "What if the earth is dry and barren? What if the morning sun is mean to us? This is a state of mind we live in; We wanted green, and so its green to us." Those words say that the perseverance and Composer Jerry Herman at the keyboard. the dedication that those people had in those early years, pulling the country together, JN: Do you have a writing routine was just a singular experience, and I — sitting at the piano or sitting at think that should be celebrated 50 the computer? years later because we wouldn't have a JH: I'm very flexible. When an idea country without those feelings. I was a hits me, I run to the piano and some- very young man when I wrote that times stay for hours. Sometimes, I song, and I'm very proud of those take a long, long walk and get the words. lyric part. It's very complicated because I write both [the music and JN: Can you point to Jewish influ- lyrics] simultaneously. I walked the ences in your other. shows? streets of New York for 35 years writ- JH: This will sound sort of chauvinis- ing lyrics. I think it's been my most tic, Jewishly chauvinistic. But I think satisfactory way of writing because I that the reason I know how to do get lost in what I'm doing. I hardly what I do is because I'm Jewish. I know where I'm going to end up. I don't know of any more than one or don't even look at the street signs. The two names of successful Broadway exercise is stimulating, and it allows songwriters who are not Jewish. It's my brain to just feel very free and assimilate ideas and thoughts. And then, of course, I get in a cab and [hurry] home to the piano and try everything out to see if I like what I have written in my head. JN: Do you have any recollections of visiting Detroit in connection with your shows? JH: Hello, Dolly! opened in Detroit, and I did a lot of my work on Dolly in a Detroit hotel room. I wrote "Before the Parade Passes By" at the Park Shelton. I was in the Fisher Theatre or inside those four walls [of my hotel room] the entire time I was [in Detroit] because we had so much work to do. JN: What do you like to do when you're not composing? JH: I like to go to other people's musicals. I'm an ardent swimmer, and I have a swimming pool at my home in Palm Springs and my home in Bel Air. The other hobby I have was the original career I was going to have, which is designing and archi- tecture. Every year or two, I buy a piece of property, redo it and sell it. I really love the variety of all the dif- ferent styles that I've done, and I purposely try to do something that I haven't done before. The last one that I did was an extremely modern home in Palm Springs, all glass and stone. The one I did before that was a French Normandy house in Bel Air. JN: Do you plan to take your revue on tour? JH: There are no tour plans. It's a show that I want to pick up every once in a while when these two great singers I've brought with me are avail- able. We will certainly do this at dif- ferent theaters in different states and in different countries. A long tour is very exhausting. The limited run that I'm doing in New York is just going to knock me out. By September, I'm going to need a nice vacation. El "An Evening With Jerry Herman" plays 8 p.m. Wednesdays-Saturdays, 2 p.m. Saturdays and 3 p.111. Sundays through August at the Booth Theatre, 222 West 45th Street, New York. There will be a special perfor- mance July 21, and there will be no matinee performances July 26 and 29. (212) 239-6200. 7/2 199 Detroit Jewish News