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countries. That belief intensified
during his visit to Israel. Hespoke
to businessmen here who are ea-
ger to do business in Malaysia
and Indonesia, but are having dif-
ficulty overcoming the difficulties
of penetrating these Muslim na-
tions.
Israel is a perfect example, Mr.
Gough said, of a country that can
really use Australia as a bridge
to new markets.
"I think Australia has to be-
come very sophisticated toward
Asia. It has to become very knowl-
edgeable and a gateway to Asia
so those from faraway nations will
seek advice on how to do business
in the whole vast-growing Asian-
Pacific area. They'll turn to Aus-
tralia for banking advice,
manufacturing advice, political
advice. We have to build institu-
tions and to specialize in this."
As for future investment in Is-
rael, "I would be quite positive
about it. I would be quite positive
about brainpower industries. I
think computer software would
be good."
One potential area of invest-
ment, Mr. Gough said, is in the
extensive development of medical
instruments currently going on
in Israel.

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As a staunch believer in trade
and cooperation with China and
Southeast Asia, Gough disagrees
with those in Australia who be-
lieve that human-rights policy
and trade policy necessarily go
hand in hand.
"I have a thing about Australia
lecturing other countries about
their policies and what they are
doing. I think we are 17.5 million
people, and we should trade with
nations and do our best to influ-
ence them.
"But I'm not sure we should
stand on podiums and start lec-
turing. In some of these countries,
you really have to understand the
history and problems they are fac-
ing. No country is perfect. If we
stood up every day and lectured
the United States about its drug
problem, I don't think we'd get
very far. I think in the halls of
power is where you can talk qui-
etly and be influential."
During his sightseeing in Is-
rael, Mr. Gough admired more
than just economic development.
"The world could learn some-
thing," he said, from the way mod-
em Jerusalem has been built. "I
think the architecture in
Jerusalem is just fabulous. The
uniformity, the modern design, the
way the modem design fits total-
ly into the historical surroundings
— it's better than I've seen any-
where else in the world." O

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