Suburban View T In a Tel Aviv bedroom community, sentiment favors pulling out of the West Bank and Gaza. LARRY DERFNER ISRAEL CORRESPONDENT he discussion was on a never-ending Israeli topic — property values. It took place in a well-fur- nished, roomy apartment in Herzliya, a clean, mid- dle-class town north of Tel Aviv, part of the sprawling Dan region surrounding the big city, where many hundreds of thousands of suburban commuters sit in rush hour traffic for up to an hour on their way to and from work. This is the heartland of Israel, the great demo- graphic bulge in the cen- ter of the country, an area of quiet neighbor- hoods, shopping centers and malls, good schools and grass for the kids to play on. A place for fami- lies, a place where Israelis go to live pri- vate, normal lives. "You should buy now, because I think they're going to make a deal for autonomy, and the set- tlers in the West Bank aren't going to live with that — they're going to come streaming over here looking for apart- ments, and that's going to drive the prices way up," said the woman of the house, whom we'll call Tami Elazari. She'd been talking about the villa she was building in an even bet- ter area with her hus- band, a businessman who was away at the time in Europe. There were problems with the contractor, as usual, but the house was going to be two stories high, near the sea, and it would be worth a fortune. The couple hadn't decided whether to sell their current apartment, but if they did, they'd ask for over $200,000 because it had a roof bal- cony — in Tel Aviv it would be worth almost twice as much. And when the time comes to sell, Mrs. Elazari said she won't drop her price. "I know what I've got," she said. West Bank settlers demonstrate in favor of Israeli control. She had a few friends over for coffee and crumb cake, who, like her, were middle-class suburban matrons in their early 40s, intelligent, practi- cal, women who could hold their own. It was a few days before Israeli Independence Day. The Palestinians were fum- ing inside the territories, as the near-total ban on their crossing the Green Line into Israel was approaching the end of its first month. The ter- ror which had convulsed the country prior to the closure was now nearly forgotten; attacks on Jews were very rare, and then only inside the ter- ritories, not in Israel proper. Prime Minister Rabin sounded buoyant: "The closure has succeeded beyond any of our expec- tations," he said, and the government had no immediate plans to call an end to such a good thing. In the Herzliya living room, the talk turned to another endless topic — what to do with the West Bank and Gaza. Mrs. Elazari's views on the Palestinians were totally negative — she hated them, they were killers as far as she was con- cerned, and she wanted nothing to do with them. Her parents held simi- lar views, so did her hus- band, so did her two teenage sons. Except for when her husband did reserve army duty, nobody in the family ever had any contact with Arabs — like the over- whelming majority of Israelis, they never set foot in the West Bank or Gaza. For them the terri- tories were a foreign country. And now, since the Palestinians — except Most Israelis have no contact with Arabs — or Jewish residents of the territories. for a few thousand labor- ers with special permits — were being kept out of Israel, Mrs. Elazari was happy. She felt free. "It's wonderful, we can go wherever we want for Independence Day with- out worrying," she said. It might have been expected that with her anti-Arab views, Mrs. Elazari would side with the Israeli right wing and the Jewish settlers, who see the Palestinians as an eternal threat who can only be overcome by keeping the territories under Israeli military rule forever. But Mrs. Elazari, like a great many other Israelis, isn't terribly ideological or political — she just doesn't like Arabs, and she wants them out of her life, and the closure is achieving just that. For her, it is the model for the way things should be permanently. "Close the territories off, let the Palestinians have them, put up a bor- der and let's be rid of them," she argued. But where would that leave the settlers, the 125,000 Jews living there? From Ofra, a large Jewish settlement in the middle of the West Bank, settler leader Yisrael Harel says it's too early to tell if the success of the closure has swung Israeli public opinion decisively towards relinquishing the West Bank and Gaza. SUBURBAN VIEW page 44 Cn C:) -J CC 43