ENTERTAINMENT GARY ROSENBLATT Editor J ackie Mason is honest to a fault. He says he was "miserable and hypocritical" as a pul- pit rabbi before becom- ing a comedian; acknowl- edges that he's an "egoma- niac" who never felt fulfilled until he became "the top banana" in show business; asserts that Jews are the vic- tim of affirmative action at the expense of blacks in this ; country; and confides that his experience on "Chicken Soup," the ill-fated ABC-TV show he starred in with Lynn ti - Redgrave, was so awful that he "hated every second of it." These are the observations of one of America's funniest entertainers? The truth is, in a one-hour interview, Mr. Mason prefers to talk about politics rather than comedy and issues of race in particular. His views spew forth in that now-familiar, rapid-fire cadence that is Mr. Mason's trademark. But while the delivery is funny, the obser- vations are dead serious. After asserting that there is a double standard regar- ding racial attitudes in this country — "a black doesn't deserve a job over a Jew just because he's black, and the Jews are the first to suffer from affirmative action" — Mr. Mason adds, "print that in your article." He does not seem the least bit chastened from his expe- rience several years ago in the New York mayoral elec- tion when he was widely criticized for referring to David Dinkins as a "well- dressed shvartze." Mr. Mason still uses the Yiddish word for black, seen as a pe- jorative by many, in an interview in discussing what he calls reverse bigotry. He asserts that while it is acceptable for blacks to call all whites bigots, "if a white The comedian is launching a new TV show but is more animated talking about affirmative action and Ross Perot. says blacks are tall, he's in trouble." Mr. Mason says he chose not to "conform to these re- strictions" and as a result, the press called him a racist "to get a headline." But he says he was "an innocent victim" of those who attack- ed his views and that the in- cident "did more good than harm because people love an underdog." What set Mr. Mason off during our conversation was his paean to Ross Perot, the man he hopes will be presi- dent. He says he "loves Perot" because the Texas billionaire opposes affir- mative action, is pro-choice on abortion, is prepared to cut waste from the defense budget and would "tax mill- ionaires more than the poor — the man has simple com- mon sense." As for his own views on the Mideast, Mr. Mason says he cares very much about Israel — he closed his successful Broadway show to visit dur- ing the Gulf War — and feels strongly that the Jewish state can give back territory and still have security. He believes that the Shamir government's insistence on holding on to the occupied land is the equivalent of "America trying to hold on to Vietnam." Israel needs to "take a chance on peace," he says because at present, "Jewish lives are being lost to prove a point." But Mr. Mason saves his most trenchant comments for American Jews with whom he has a distinctly love-hate relationship. He notes that the only critics of his style of humor are Jews who tell him his material is "too Jewish. "Three-quarters of the Jews get nervous when you do Jewish material. They have such an inferiority complex. They're worried the gentiles won't under- stand. Jews have such paranoia; they can't believe they're accepted." Mr. Mason believes that Jews are more intense than others about proving them- selves and, as a result, "we make ourselves miserable. But this turbulence helps us do great things. All this greed and jealousy, this de- termination to be the best. It all comes in one package." The comedian is quick to admit that he, too, was a product of this turbulence, though he says he has final- ly outgrown it. As a child with a brilliant older brother, Mr. Mason says he used humor as "my outlet to attract attention. I was the clown and I was popular as a kid." Growing up in an Or- thodox home, he went into the rabbinate to please his father, receiving ordination from one of the most revered rabbis of this century, Rabbi Moshe Feinstein of Tiferes Yerushalyim. (The edge to Mr. Mason is always there. When I ex- pressed surprise that he had received smicha from Rabbi Feinstein, Mr. Mason asked in a challenging voice: "Are you Orthodox?" When I said yes, he asked, "so how many kids do you have — seven, eight?" When I said. three, he responded, "Oh, that kind of Orthodox.") Mr. Mason acknowledges that the rabbinate was not for him. "I was nauseous and THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS 61 RTR F NTFRTAI Jackie Mason Gets Serious