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"It was an ideal opportuni-
ty to travel together and talk
to all sides involved in the
conflict," Mr. Grossman
said. "We covered ground
from a different perspec-
tive."
The trip changed his views
on the conflict, said Mr.
Grossman, a West Bloom-
field resident who had never
been to Israel.
"Before I wasn't sure,"
said Mr. Grossman, a mem-
ber of the American-Israeli
Civil Liberties Coalition
which supports Israeli
human rights. "Now,
without any doubt, I believe
the separate two-state solu-
tion is necessary."
But, David Gad-Harf, Jew-
ish Community Council ex-
ecutive director, said prior to
the trip, participants, who
all had similiar views on the
subject, endorsed a state-
ment advocating a two-state
solution. "They had their
minds made up before they
left," Mr. Gad-Harf said.
"The trip just reinforced
their conception. I don't
think it was an objective
tour."
Rudy Simons, who had
been to Israel three years
ago before the trouble with
the intifada began, said as a
New Jewish Agenda mem-
ber, he had an understan-
ding on the conflict. "But as
far as a gut reaction I did not
have the strong one I now
have."
After the trip, the delega-
tion released a statement
explaining their reasons
why a Palestinian state
should be created out of
Israeli-held land. According
to the statement, both sides
must begin by acknowledg-
ing each other's fundamen-
tal rights.
While Israel has the right
to live peacefully within
secure borders, the Palestin-
ians have a right to self-
determination including the
right to be represented by its
chosen leadership, the PLO,
the delegation said.
"Any peace would have to
be_ with the support of the
PLO," Mr. Simons said.
"The people consider the
PLO to be their represent-
atives."
"While some PLO mem-
bers are violent, the main-
stream of the PLO is not of
that stripe," Mr. Simons
said. "Palestinians clearly
consider the Israeli govern-
ment to be as terrorist and
as aggressive as many in the
Jewish community consider
the PLO to be."
Israelis and Palestinians
must put behind their
misconceptions and talk
about sharing the land, he
added.
While Americans should
not decide how the land is
divided, the United States
must play an active role in
the peace process, Mr.
Grossman said.
That means resuming
direct negotiations with the
PLO, supporting the Israelis
and Palestinians who work
for peace including those
who advocate the end of
Israeli settlements in the oc-
cupied territories and the
opening of Palestinian uni-
versities.
The delegation also wants
the United States to rescind
its veto of the use of United
Nations observers to moni-
tor human rights in the
West Bank and the Gaza
Strip.
"If the UN monitors the
situation, there will be less
violence," Mr. Grossman
Eaid.
Although the Iraq crisis
has taken center stage in the
Middle East, once that con-
flict has been resolved, the
Palestinian-Israeli problem
remains, he said.
"There must be a set-
tlement," Mr. Grossman
said.
While both men know
many American Jews would
disagree with their views,
neither feel they are anti-
Israel.
"I can not see any conflict
in saying I am pro-Israel,
viiich I am, and being pro-
Palestinian, which is ab-
solutely true," Mr.
Grossman said.
Mr. Simons added, "My
own brand of Judaism,
learned many years ago,
commits me to the human
rights of all people every-
where. Military occupation
and a democratic society do
not, will not, and cannot
wa lk hand-in-hand."
Upon their return, delega-
tion members have been
speaking about what they've
seen and their belief that
only a two-state solution will
bring peace. While most of
the talks have been at chur-
ches, Mr. Grossman and
other delegation members
are scheduled to speak to a
Temple Emanu-El group on
Sunday.
"If American Jews of
goodwill could see the result
of the Israeli occupation in
terms of the human conse-
quence they would not be
reluctant to step backward
and encourage the Israeli
government to sit down and
talk about how to end the oc-
cupation," Mr. Simons
said.