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Ephraim Sneh:
Sees partners for peace.

the United States was spon-
sored by the American Jewish
Committee which has urged
the Israel government to
adopt the land-for-peace
formula.
Members of the Council for
Peace and Security believe
territorial concessions will
enhance Israel's security in
light of the high Arab bir-
thrate. "What is the alter-
native? To rule 2 million
Arabs in 10 years?" said Orr,
who led both the central and
northern commands of the
Israel Defense Forces during
his career.
Israel should not act
unilaterally, the four caution-
ed. Withdrawal must be the
result of a negotiated
settlement.
With whom should Israel
negotiate? "Jordan and the
Palestinians are our natural
partners for peace. I prefer a
joint Palestinian-Jordanian
delegation," said Sneh, who
headed the civilian ad-
ministration in the West
Bank.
Said Orr: "I'm ready to talk
to the PLO if they recognize
Israel's right to exist."
The reserve generals said
their blueprint for peace is
based solely on security con-
siderations. Built into any
peace treaty would be the
following unshakable Israeli
demands: a transition period
to test the viability of the
treaty; demilitarization of the
territories; and early warning
stations in the mountains of
Judea and Samaria to signal
any hostile moves by Arab
forces.
In addition, Israel would in-
sist on the right to conduct air
force training exercises in
West Bank air space. The Jor-
dan River would be Israel's
security border.
The four said peace should

be negotiated by an interna-
tional peace conference.
Critics argue that Israel will
be pushed into a corner if it
attends such a conference.
Orr is not worried.
"We're strong enough to get
out. I'm not afraid to say, 'It's
not our solution. Let's go
home? "
"(U.S.
Added Sneh:
Secretary of State George)
Shultz has guaranteed that
the conference would not
become a tribunal against
Israel. He said if Israel walks
out, so will the U.S."
How can the generals call
for withdrawal from the ter-
ritories when current Israeli
military wisdom dictates the
need for a security presence
in south Lebanon? Is this a
contradiction?
The generals said there is
no contradiction between
their call for withdrawal from
the West Bank and a con-
tinued Israeli presence in its
Lebanese security zone. "If
you are talking about a
demilitarized zone in the
West Bank, it will be a kind
of security zone," said Orr.
Since the territories fell in-
to Israeli hands 21 years ago,
some 60,000 Jews have settl-
ed there. Orr said he forsees
no civil war should Israel
choose to withdraw. The set-
tlers will not stage a mass
revolt, he said.
Yariv concurred. "I cannot
see an Israeli government
that will be prepared to
evacuate the settlements by
force. Those who want to stay
will stay, even under Arab
rule."
Most of the members of the
Council for Peace and Securi-
ty are retired military men
not connected with politics.
There are exceptions. Mayor
Shlomo Lahat, the Likud
mayor of Tel Aviv and a
retired general, joined the
council. So has Moshe
Amirav, a former member of
the Herut Central Commit-
tee. Amirav quit Herut when
a party tribunal revoked his
membership in the committee
after he met with Palesti-
nians from the West Bank.
Orr recently joined the Labor
Party.
Sneh, who knew Palesti-
nians on a day-to-day basis
when he headed the West
Bank civilian government,
said many Palestinians are
ready to live in peace with
Israel. "Israel has to come up
with tangible offers in order
to encourage moderates," he
said.

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