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Christian made him "more
Jewish. Jesus made me
kosher. My friends see that I
have not become a gentile."
Stone said that, more than
a question of theology, the
major problem that Jews
have in accepting Jews with
Christian beliefs is that they
are seen "as becoming a part
of a people that persecuted
Jews, much of it in the name
of Christianity. They see us
as joining the enemy side."
That history of persecution
makes Jesus "a non-option,"
he added in response to Kel-
ly's question, "Why do the
majority of Jews not accept
Jesus?"
On the contrary, argued
Rabbi Tolwin, Jews believe
"the Almighty wants a rela-
tionship with the human race
without any go-betweens
(Jesus)." This remark drew a
smattering of applause from
the audience. He said that if
Jews who believed in Jesus
wanted to call themselves a
new religion, that would be
acceptable from a Jewish
perspective.
He charged that groups
like "Shema Yisrael" and
"Jews For Jesus" seem to
straddle the lanes between
religions because, in reality,
they are evangelical Chris-
tian groups "that use the
trappings of Judaism to make
themselves acceptable to
Jews."
In response to a question
from Kelly, Rabbi Tolwin
said he has read "quite a bit
of the New Testament," but
that his "sense of priorities"
leads him to concentrate on
the Torah.
But the Torah is incom-
plete, Stone said to Rabbi
Tolwin. It implies that there
is something yet to come.
That "something" is the
Oral Tradition, the rabbi an-
swered, referring to the Tal-
mud, "which encompasses all
the principals and goals of
Judaism."
"Sometimes Oral Law con-
tradicts the Bible," Jacobs
declared.
"Give me an example,"
Rabbi Tolwin shot back.
Stone said there was no
need to give examples, but
Jacobs insisted on answering,
saying, "The Bible says Jesus
is the Messiah. Oral Law
says he isn't. My vote is with
the Bible," he said, prompt-
ing applause from the audi-
ence.
Rev. Lyons argued that the
function of a messiah, an
"anointed one," is to bring
people "to the knowledge of
God."
"I think Jesus is a mes-
siah," he told Jacobs and
Stone, "anointed by God to do
a specific task ... because
gentiles need to know God.
Jews already do."
The idea of Jesus' non-
universality was questioned
by members of the audience.
"Why would you want to dep-
rive the Israelites of the pre-
cious gift of the Holy Spirit?"
one man asked Rev. Lyons,
referring to one of the Chris-
tian Trinity.
"Why are we fighting over
the language?" Rev. Lyons
responded. "The world needs
the God of Israel."
An Orthodox Jew in the
audience noted that while
Jesus had been rejected by
the Jews as the Messiah, Bar
Kochba, who lived 100 years
later, was accepted as God's
anointed by a majority of the
Jews.
"Truth is not decided by
majority vote," Stone snapped
to warm applause.
Associate Producer Brad
Hurtado said that the subject
of "Christian Jews" had
never been dealt with in the
four years he had worked for
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