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26 Friday, February 11, 1983

THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS

Forum Speakers See Long-Term Gains for Israel

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closed circuit television in
the social hall,- that there
will often be disagreements
between Israel and the U.S.
"Israel has asked for too
much," he said, "and the
U.S. often asks for too little.
He said that the war in
Lebanon again demon-
strated that the Arab states
are primarily concerned
with their own national
interests and not the
"Palestinian question."
Sisco added that Leba-
non has to remain in the
Arab world and live in a
peaceful relationship
with Israel. At the same
time, the U.S. has not got-
ten backing from the
Arab world. "The Saudis
should be pushing Syria
on withdrawal from the
Bekaa Valley," he said.
"They sould not be advis-
ing Lebanon against a
treaty with Israel."
The PLO is no longer in a
position to play individual
Arab state against indi-
vidual Arab state, Sisco
said.
In a theme to which he re-
turned several times during
his talk and the question-
and-answer session at the
end of the program, Sisco
stressed that U.S. and in-
ternational forces will have
to remain in Lebanon for a
long, indefinite period. The
Lebanese government is
"embryonic" and for the
next year or two "we will see
a resurgence from time to
time of violence and
counter-violence in Leba-
non."
Syria is over:extended,
Sisco said, "and Presi-
dent Assad's number
one priority is survival." He
said Assad is under internal
pressure to leave Lebanon
because Syria's Sunni
majority believes Assad's
Alewite minority is pressur-
ing the Sunnis of Lebanon.
Turning to President
Reagan's plan for peace
announced last Sept. 1,
Sisco said the plan is

based on two assump-
tions: Israel and Jordan
both need peace and that
there is "no quick fix."
He said there is a consen-
sus in Israel on Jerusalem
and that there should be no
Palestinian state. But Is-
rael is divided on control of
the West Bank.
King Hussein for years
had a red light from the
Arabs on negotiating peace.
"Now you can say he has a
yellow light," Sisco said.
"The Arabs have learned
that the Soviets can help
them make war," he said,
"but only the United States
can help them make peace."
Sisco concluded by saying
that over a 30-year period
there were no negotiations
and no contacts between the
Arab nations and Israel. He
described the last eight
years as a "remarkable
change" and stated, "The
peace process in the Middle
East has become irreversi-
ble."

"is our only friend that has Samaria" after each
true credibility to deal with speaker mentioned the
mischief."
words "West Bank."
Jackson called on the
"I want you to know,
United States to recognize Linowitz said, "that 'West
that:
Bank' and 'Gaza' were
• Israel is our only de- the terms signed by
pendable ally.
Prime Minister Begin in
• The U.S. must maintain the Camp David Ac-
Israel's forces.
cords."
• The U.S. should not
Continuing, Linowitz
force Israel to withdraw reiterated that the de-
from Lebanon unilaterally.
velopments in Lebanon,
• The U.S. cannot ask Is- "though tragic, have given
rael to withdraw from the us new opportunities."
West Bank and thereby im-
He reviewed the accom-
peril her security. "Israel plishments of Camp David
needs defensible borders," and added, "The Israeli-
he said.
Egyptian peace treaty, de-
"I would support self- spite some disagreements,
government on the West has been observed. Despite
Bank as long as Israel the withdrawal of the Egyp-
controls security. I will tian Ambassador (because
not support a Palestinian of Lebanon), both countries
state on the West Bank, are committed to the peace
and that is apparently the treaty. What would the
view of the President of situation be today without
the United States," that treaty? They would be
Jackson said.
arrayed against each
Turning to Soviet Jewish other." -
emigration, Jackson called
Linowitz then turned to
on "more Americans to
* * *
the question of autonomy
demonstrate. Freedom is
Jackson Sees Israel
for the Palestinians, assert-
everyone's business."
as Soviet Counter
ing that the term "full au-
* * *
tonomy" in the Camp David
Sen. Jackson (D-Wash.)
Linowitz Discusses
Accords was proposed by
presented a "geopolitical
Prime Minister Begin him-
Prospects for Peace
view of the Middle East to-
day" in his remarks. He
Ambassador Linowitz self. "We are now wrestling
stated that the region is opened his speech by stat- with a definition of that
"fundamentally unstable" ing, "The fundamental fact term."
He said 80 percent of
because of the Iran-Iraq is that Israel remains firm
war, oil pricing, Soviet in its commitment to with- the Camp David Accords
penetration in Iran, Iraq, draw from Lebanese terri- have been implemented.
Yemen and Syria.
tory. When and how is the The remaining unre-
"Given this situation, discussion." He expressed solved questions include:
• Public lands.
Israel is our major ally in confidence that there would
• Water rights.
blocking the Soviets. We be an agreement in princi-
• Israeli security.
cannot overlook the Is- ple this year.
• Whether the self-
raeli forces' outstanding
In a broader view,
performance in Lebanon. Linowitz called the Middle governing body should have
At the same time, Israel is East "a tinderbox" from legislative rights.
• Voting rights for East
a democracy and is will- which the attention of the
ing to take a tough look at United States must not be Jerusalem residents.
"Resolution of these ques-
itself for its actions in diverted. He blamed the
Lebanon."
"Palestinian problem" on tions will tell whether the
Jackson spoke of the the "continued failure of the agreement will be durable,"
Linowitz said.
demonstration by 400,000 Arabs to recognize Israel."
He said the Palesti-
Israelis in Tel Aviv which
He called the Camp David
led to the formation of the Accords "the only game in nians have refused to join
commission of inquiry on town" and while discussing the autonomy negotia-
the Beirut massacre.
the West Bank, answered a tions because of the
In terms of the Soviets, heckler who insisted on sh- threat of the PLO, Israeli
Jackson added that Israel outing "Judea and settlement policies, and
"the Western powers
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have counseled Palesti-
nians to not join the proc-
ess in the hopes that they
could do better."
He added that the re-
moval by Israel of several
Arab mayors from office on
the West Bank "was not
helpful" and predicted that
King Hussein of Jordan
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ess within the year.
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he said.

* * *

Question and
Answer Session

The formal statements by
the three major speakers
were followed by a
question-and-answer ses-
sion. A media panel asking
the questions consisted of
William E. Giles, editor of
the Detroit News; David
Lawrence Jr., executive
editor of the Detroit Free
Press; and Byron Mac-
Gregor, newscaster for
WKBD-TV and WWJ
Radio.
The questioners spent
-considerable time on the
presence of U.S. Marines in
Lebanon and the recent in-
cidents involving the
Marines and Israeli forces.
Siico said the incidents
were being resolved, and
that they reflect frustra-
tion on both sides. He
blamed both Israeli De-
fense Minister Ariel Sha-
ron and U.S. Defense
Secretary Caspar Wein-
berger for "not handling
these incidents in the
manner of commonality."
Jackson said he opposed
sending the Marines to
Lebanon. "This is not the
same as Sinai. It was a mis-
take to make it open-ended.
There are too many fac-
tions. It is not good for a
super power to be there.
What happens when the
fiist Marine is killed?"
Sisco said that there was
no alternative to a U.S.
presence. "Lebanon is not
Vietnam," he said. "Israel
does not trust the UN forces.
They have proven in-
adequate in the past." He
said Americans may have to
man intelligence stations
along the Israeli-Lebanese
border.
In response to a question
from Giles on Israel's slip-
page in ( U.S. popularity
polls, Sen. Jackson said de-
spite the slippage there is
basic American support for
Israel. "Americans admire
Israel because Israel does it
for themselves," he said.
He chastized the media
for its coverage of the
war in Lebanon and re-
sponded to Giles' com-
plaints of Israeli censor-
ship by saying, "There
was no coverage of the
fighting and the PLO re-
turn to Tripoli (Lebanon)
because the Syrians
won't allow a free press
to be in there."
In response to a Giles
question about whether
U.S. aid to Israel was too
high, Sen. Jackson said
"Dollar for dollar it is a
cheap investment against
the Soviets." Linowitz
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"Threatening to withhold
aid is wrong, counter-
'productive and not the way
a responsible nation acts."
Sisco joined in that such a
threat would unite every
political party in Israel.
Asked what the U.S.
should do in a positive
way, Linowitz replied,
"We haVe failed to follow
through. You can't thun-
der at Israel in the news-
papers. You don't
negotiate in letters. This
(Middle East peace) has
not been the highest
priority of the U.S. gov-
ernment for the last two
years."
Sisco said, "The feeling of
lack of trust is greater today
than at any time in my 30-
year involvement. We must
renew the sense of trust (be-
tween Israel and the United
States) through the pattern
of consultations which
existed for years."
Asked about Wein-
berger's attitude toward Is-
rael, Linowitz said he did
not think Weinberger was
anti-Semitic or anti-Israel.
"He should handle issues
more sensitively, but he is
not seeking to 'do in' Israel.
He is sometimes mis-
guided."
Linowitz advocated a
Reagan-Begin summit
meeting, adding, "It is
unthinkable that we
should chastize Israel by
not meeting with the
Prime Minister. That is
sophomoric."
Asked why it was in
Syria's interest to make
peace, Linowitz quoted
Anwar Sadat of Egypt:
"Look what I got for making
peace and look what they
got for making war."
Sisco concluded the 2 12-
hour program by respond-
ing to whether the peace
process would be enhanced
without Begin. Sisco re-
called how Begin reacted to
Sadat's 1977 trip • to
Jerusalem — the conces-
sions for peace that were ul-
timately made by Israel.
"Begin is the only Is-
raeli leader who could
have reacted the way he
did and make it stick,"
Sisco said.
Michigan Senator Carl
Levin introduced Sisco,
Jackson and Linowitz to the
audience. Following their
speeches, Levin left the
room to hold a discussion
with Hebrew school stu-
dents in another part of the
building. Federation leader
Merle Harris served as
moderator during the press
panel and audience
question-and-answer ses-
sions.
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