10 Friday; September 19, 1980

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David Ben-Gurion Told Edmund Muskie
of Israel's Peace-Time Boundary Needs

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TEL AVIV (ZINS) —
Nine years ago Senator
Edmund Muskie (currently
the U.S. Secretary of State)
paid a visit to Israel's elder
statesman, David Ben-
Gurion, at Sde Boker. Some
excerpts of their talks ap-
peared recently in the He-
brew morning daily,
Ha'aretz.
Muskie asked Ben-
Gurion about his view on Is-
rael's boundaries and
Ben-Gurion replied:
"It depends on whether
there will be a significant
Jewish emigration from the
Soviet Union (the talks took
place long before the onset
of the great wave of arrivals
from Russia). Then the land
available in the Negev is
sufficient to absorb these
newcomers.
"However, the real
issue is not whether we
need the territories for
our own space. That
problem has three sepa-
rate aspects. In the first

EDMUND MUSKIE

place, it is a matter of his-
torical right; a right
which is millennia old.
"In the second place, as a
consquence of that first
point, Jews are entitled to
live in all parts of the
United States, so are Israeli
Jews entitled to live in all
portions of the Land of Is-
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"Finally, if an enduring
peace with the Arabs de-
pends upon our relinquish-
ing a portion of the historic
land of Israel, then I would
counsel my people to give up
even the greater part of the
administered territories,
with the exception of
Jerusalem and the Golan
Heights."
At that point, Senator
Muskie asked Ben-Gurion
what he understands by the
term "peace". Ben-Gurion
replied that he meant the
same sort of peace that pre-
vails between Belgium and
The Netherlands. Senator
Muskie observed that so far
as those two European
countries are concerned,
there seemed to be no firm
boundaries.
Ben-Gurion concurred,

DAVID BEN-GURION

saying that boundaries are
an aspect of neighborly re-
lationships between
peoples. If the relationships
are good then the question
of boundaries loses its im-
portance.

MDA President Is Pushing
for Red Cross Recognition

WASHINGTON (JTA) — Cross societies abroad —
A Russian-born scientist the West Europeans,
with a medical degree from Romania's and especially
the University of Berlin with the American Red
which he received during Cross." While in Washing-
the bitter years when Hit- ton, he was the guest of
ler's onslaught was mount- George Elsey, American
ing against against Jews, Red Cross president.
has taken up the long
Harell, who was in Wash-
struggle to have the Inter- ington with Rabbi Reuben
national Red Cross (IRC) Dobin of Miami Beach, a
recognize Israel's Magen leader in the American ef-
David Adorn.
fort in "Operation Recogni-
Dr. Arieh Harell, now 68 tion" for Magen David
and a professor of Adom, was Israel's minister
endocrinology at Tel Aviv to . Romania in 1957-1958
University, is president of and ambassador to the
Israel's counterpart of Red Soviet Union in 1958-1962.
Cross and Red Crescent
societies in other countries. Dayan: ZikUd
In the United States for a Dishonorable on
series of seminars and con-
ferences in his medical field, Jerusalem Law
he seeks to win support for
TEL AVIV (ZINS) — In
Israel's membership in the
an interview with ,Yediot
international body.
Ahronot, Moshe Dayan
The IRC holds its quad-
called for the establishment
rennial meeting in Manila
of a "first class national
in November 1981 when Is-
leadership" to cope with the
rael's membership will be
"approaching crisis in the
proposed. In 1949, when it
political and economic
made its first application, it
spheres."
lost by one vote. At that
Dayan sees an interna-
time, the East European
tional offensive being
bloc was split and some
mounted against the coun-
members abstained. Every
try, "that could lead to the
four years since then Israel
end of Israel — if not the
has unsuccessfully sought
state as a physical entity
membership in the face of than its political, economic
opposition from the Arabs
and security indepen-
and their allies.
dence."
Pointing out a loss of na-
This year marks the
50th anniversary of tional faith and collective
nerve, a decline in immigra-
Magen David Adom,
tion and increasing eco-
which was established
nomic dependency, Dayan
during the British Man-
is highly critical of "the way
date in Palestine.
the
government abandon'
Last month, Harell said,
the basic responsibilities 1_,
"Magen David Adom sent
throwing in its hand when
200 pounds of medicines
the
Jerusalem Law was in
and first aid kits to the Red
the committee stage.
Cross in Nepal to help
"It is unbelievable that
earthquake victims. Five
the
Cabinet could have been
medical teams, helped by
naive enough to think such
the government of Israel
a law would have no inter-
and Israel's television net-
national repercussions, and
work, went to aid refugees
if it was a matter of trickery,
from Cambodia in Thai-
it was quite dishonorable,
land. Israel's television
and affects the govern-
raised 50 million Israeli
ment's credibility," Dayan
Pounds for this purpose."
said.
Harell noted that "most
Red Cross societies recog-
How much have cost us
nize Israel's international
the
evils that never hap-
cooperation. There are
strong personal ties be- pened! -
— Jefferson
tween our society -and Red