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Shimon Peres Meets With President Carter,
Stresses Need for Talks With Jordanians
WASHINGTON (JTA) —
Shimon Peres, chairman of
Israel's Labor Party, turned
down suggestions that
President Carter leans
toward the views of
President Anwar Sadat of
Egypt in the autonomy
negotiations with Israel and
said that the President's
"main interest is to main-
tain the momentum of peace
in the Middle East" and' is
seekin: "a middle road" on
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"full autonomy" for the
West Bank and Gaza.
Peres, the first leader of
an Israeli opposition party
ever invited to the White
House, met with Carter pri-
vately for a half-hour last
Thursday and later for an
additional 15 minutes in
company with Vice
President Walter Mondale,
Secretary of State Cyrus
Vance and Israel's Ambas-
sador Ephraim Evron.
When he emerged from
the White House, with
Mondale bidding him
farewell, Peres was asked
about Carter's views on set-
tlements and "full au-
tonomy." Peres said, "The
Begin government — all of
us — agree with the Camp
David language on full au-
tonomy. Autonomy is less
than independence and
more than the present situ-
ation. But where exactly is
the middle? It is about this
point that we are now
negotiating."
Peres was asked if Car-
ter is closer to Sadat than
to Premier Menahem
Begin on autonomy. He
replied, "If I understood
correctly what he (Car-
SHIMON PERES
ter) told me, he is looking
for a middle way between
the two positions." Peres
said Carter stated four
"basic points." He said
these were a united
Jerusalem; no Palesti-
nian state; no negotia-
tions with the Palestine
Liberation Organization;
and keeping the "spirit"
of the Camp David
agreements.
Asked by the Jewish
Telegraphic Agency if he
had any indication of the
views of Carter or others on
sovereignty over all of
Jerusalem, he answered,
no."
The Israeli Labor Party
leader explained that "the
majority" of his party has
"some differences" with the
Begin government about
the West Bank, "namely,
that we would like to see the
Jordanians coming in and
partaking in the negotia-
tions on the Palestinian
issue and the West Bank so
as to build a Jordanian-
Palestinian framework in
which the Palestinian issue
can find its fair solution in
the future."
Peres was questioned
about the view that "the
Bible deeds the occupied
territories to the Jews."
"There is no doubt," he
said, "that we have the
right on the land. But we
cannot deal just on his-
torical assumptions. We
have to look to the future
and see how to guarantee
the Jewish character of
the state of Israel which
is not just a numerical
commitment but moral as
well, and how to make
peace with our
neighbors. There is noth-
ing in the Bible that for-
bids it."
Asked if the settlements
issue is making the peace
process more difficult, Peres
said, "I don't think the set-
tlements as such are the is-
sue. It is the future of the
West Bank from which the
settlement policy results.
We have to decide the basic
framework over the West
Bank and then the settle-
ment issue will become a
matter of secondary na-
ture."
During his U.S. visit,
Peres spoke in New York,
Miami, Philadelphia and
Boston. He also met with
Senate Minority Leader
Howard Baker (R-Tenn.)
and former Secretary of
State Henry Kissinger.
with
visit
Peres'
President Carter was
criticized by the National
Council of Young Israel as
an "overt attempt" by the
Carter Administration "to
weaken the government of
Israeli Prime Minister Be-
gin."
Before his U.S. visit, an
article by Peres ap-
peared in Foreign Affairs
magazine in which he
again favored step-by-
step negotiations with
Jordan.
Peres stressed that th
Labor Party believes that
"within the framework of a
peace settlement, we would
be prepared to relinquish
parts of the West Bank on
the condition that they re-
main demilitarized; that no
foreign army ever again
cross the Jordan River and
menace the gates of
Jerusalem, as. happened in
1948 and 1967; and that we
gain defensible borders to
deter a surprise attack on
us, as happened in 1973."
While stressing that if the
Labor Party returns to
office it would be bound to
any international commit-
ments made by the Likud
government, Peres doubts
that the autonomy for .
Palestinian Arabs on the
West Bank and Gaza now
being negotiated by Israel,
Egypt and the United
States will be realized.
He claims that if the ver-
sion of autonomy proposed
by Begin is implemented,
"Israel will change from
being a Jewish state into a
binational community."
If President Anwar
Sadat's version is im-
plemented, it will mean a
Palestinian state, Peres
stated, adding that such a
state "will continually
menace both the Jordanian
kingdom and the security of
Israel, and consequently the
peace and stability of the
whole area."
Phila. Pastor
to Deliver
Dropsie Lecture
PHILADELPHIA Rev.
Leon H. Sullivan has been
selected to deliver the an-
nual Sol Feinstone Lecture
on "The Meaning of Free-
dom" at Dropsie University
commencement. exercises
May 29.
Rev. Sullivan, who is pas-
tor of Zion Baptist Church,
is founder of the Oppor-
tunities Industrialization
Center, a world-wide pr
gram for training
minorities and also founder
and chairman of the Na-
tional Progress Associatic
for Economic Developmen
which provides planning
and economic development
for minority businesses in
40 cities around the coun-
try.
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NY Help Line
NEW YORK (JTA) — A
five-day-a-week Jewish In-
formation and Referral
Service (JIRS) in New York
received more than 1,000
telephone calls asking help
and advice in its first month
of operation.