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The former premier said
he considers the statement
issued this week totally at
divergence with what he
was told by Carter at the
White House in March and
what the President repeat-
ed at a press conference at
the time. He said Carter at
that time talked of a full
peace and now the state-
ment talks of normalization
of relations. He also said
the President was opposed
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to any negotiations with the
Palestine terrorist organiza-
tions and to the creation of
a Palestinian state between
Israel and Jordan.
Meanwhile, Begin told the
Jewish Agency's board of
governors that there was
nothing that could not be
negotiated with the Arab
states. He said all sides to
the talks can raise any sub-
ject "but without any for-
mulas imposed from with-
out." - -
The premier said he was
"going to Washington full
of hope. that I will find a
common language with
President Carter." He ex-
pressed the hope that his
visit would be the beginning
of preparations for a real
peace.
Begin's statement echoed
the Foreign Ministry's
which said there was no
foundation for the argu-
ment that Israel has ex-
cluded any territories from
the negotiating process,
The Foreign Ministry
spokesman said that accord-
ing to the guidelines of the
government, everything is
open to discussion and nego-
tiation. He referred to
Begin's speech to the Zion=
ist General Council last
week which said that Israel
does not present ulti
matums and the term "not
negotiable" does not exist
in any Israeli dictionary.
The spokesman said that
other matters referred to in
the State Department state-
ment, such as the definition
of "real peace" were sub-
jects to be discussed be-
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tween President Carter and
Begin.
Meanwhile, Begin and De-
fense Minister Ezer Weiz-
man continued -to stress the
view that withdrawal from
the Judaea and Samaria re-
gions would face Israel
with grave dangers to its
security. Both spoke at a re-
ception Tuesday on the de-
parture of Sephardic Chief
Rabbi Ovadia Yosef on a
trip to the U.S. Begin insist-
ed that for Israel, retention
of Judaea and Samaria was
a matter of survival.
In Washington, Alfred
Atherton virtually conceded
that the U.S. is pressing Is-
rael to return to its pre-1967
borders because the Arabs
are not indicating they will
compromise on territories.
He also said that Jerusalem
"has to be part of the nego-
tiating process."
Atherton was responding
to a question at the opening
session of a two-day nation-
al meeting at the State De-
partment of editors and
broadcasters to discuss for-
eign policy.
"I have to say from all
our talks with the Arabs
that I do not see any in-
dication they are prepared
to both give up their posi-
.
ALFRED ATHERTON
tion of non-acceptance and
non-recognition of Israel
and to give up the territory
beyond the 1967 borders.
One has to see in the per-
ception of the Arabs that
there is already a territo-
rial compromise—they are
giving up a claim of terri-
tory in that part of Pales-
tine which has become Is-
Atherton added: "There
are statements on the re-
cord and also in our private
discussions that their
(Arab) objective is to make
permanent peace with Is-
rael. We ask no one to take
this on faith. That's why we
need negotiations to test
this." He did not identify
the arab leaders.
With reference to Jerusa-
lem Atherton said, "We do
not accept Israel's actions"
as determining the city's fu-
ture. But he said, "We
would find it anamolous
and repugnant to go back to
the physical division that ex-
isted before 1967. Realisti-
cally, one has to acknowl-
edge the Palestinian as-
pect" of the situation.
"Nobody's aspirations are
going to be totally satisfied
if there is to be a settle-
ment. - He added. "but at
least" the Palestinians will
have had "a fair shake."
Atherton described Vice
President Walter Mondale's
reference to a - Palestinian
homeland or entity prefera-
bly in relations to Jordan"
as being an -example - of a
solution. The President, he
said, has not defined wheth-
er it would be an independ-
ent state or not.
Should Israel find itself
going under in a war, would
the United States become in-
volved militarily to save
her, Atherton was asked.
He replied, "That would be
a major and agonizing deci-
sion for an administration
to face." It would have to
be a decision, he observed,
"reviewed by the President
in consultation with Con-
gress and we would have to
get the best judgement pos-
sible of what the attitude of
public opinion in this coun-
try was as to how we
should act in such circum-
stances."
However, Atherton felt,
"Happily, I don't see this
arising in the foreseeable fu-
ture in light of the military
capabilities of both sides."
Vance, Atherton and
State Department spokes-
man Hodding Carter all
said that the department's
statement Monday sugges-
ting Israel's withdrawal
from administered terri-
tories had no affect on U.S.-
Israel relations.
But later Tuesday Vance
told reporters that Israel
can not set "pre-condi-
tions" on the negotiations
(the Begin government's
stand on the West. Bank)
without hampering the U.S.
role in the negotiations.
Egypt and Jordan, in offi-
cial statements, hailed the
U.S. pronouncements as a
change in U.S. policy and a
positive new step.
The Carter Adminis-
tration also officially said
Tuesday it will welcome
Begin to Washington and is
looking forward to hearing
his views on a Middle East
settlement. The State De-
partment also said that Na-
tional Security Affairs Ad-
viser Zbigniew Brzezinski
telephoned Israeli Ambassa-
dor Simha Dinitz to this ef-
fect. Dinitz left for Jerusa-
lem Tuesday for a week of
consultations preparatory
to Begin's visit.
The Brzezinski call of re-
assurance came after re-
ports filtered privately and
unofficially to reporters
that the Administration
would have no point in
meeting with Begin if he
did not retreat from his po-
sition of maintaining that
Judaea and Samaria are
parts of Israel.
said
Carter
Hodding
Wednesday that the State
Department statement was
never meant to suggest that
Israel should withdraw im-
mediately from the occu-
pied territories.
Meanwhile, Dinitz and
Rabbi Alexander Schindler,
chairman_of the Conference
of Presidents of Major
American Jewish Organiza-
tions, both asserted late
Tuesday that no material
changes have taken place
in the U.S. and Israeli posi-
tions.
Both also emphasized
that they are seeking to pre-
serve harmony in America-
Israel relations. The Dinitz
and Schindler comments
were made at the State De-
partment after they held
separate half-hour meetings
with Secretary of State
Cyrus Vance. Earlier Dinitz
also met with Brzezinski at
the White House.
Dinitz was asked by re-
porters whether there are
differences in Israeli and
American policies. "There
is no secret," the ambassa-
dor replied, -that we had
differences of opinion on
some items before. I don't
think as a result of this
(State Department) state-
ment any of the differences
were either resolved or aug-
mented. I think basically it
was a restatement of Ameri-
can policy. I don't think
there was any material
changes."
Schindler disclosed after
meeting Vance that he and
other Jewish communal
leaders will meet with Pres-
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