Dr. Theodor Herzl and the Vatican BY DR. S. U. NAHON The problem of the Holy Places , he did not meet until 1899. During I his journey to Palestine in 1898, in Palestine and the connections Herzl dreamt of a new Jerusalem, between Zionism and the Roman whereas the Old City would be- Church occupied Herzl's mind from ! come "Lourdes, Mecca and Yeru- the very beginning of his Zionist shalayim." work. In "AltneulancL7 written - in 1902, A reference to the Holy places Herz' treats ones_/More the is to be found in his "The Jewish problem of the Holy Places: "Ro- State" where he suggested a kind man Law has a concept which of extra-territoriality guaranteed applies very well here: res sacrae by international law for such holy extra commercium. This was the sites. safest. in fact the only way to In May 1896 Herzl met Agliardi, make them the common property the Apostholic Nuncius in Vienna. of all believers for ever." and the following year he tried, * * * unsuccessfully, to see Monsignor Herzl desired to establish direct Taliana, the new Envoy of the contacts with the Pope on the occa- Vatican in Vienna, whom, however, sion of his visit to Rome to see the King of Italy. This journey was first planned in August 1903, during the 6th Zionist Congress, and was undertaken only in Janu- ary 1904. In the correspondence between Herzl and Dr. Felice Ravenna, the 10770 W. 9 MILE RD., OAK PARK president of the Italian Zionist Federation. the proposed audience with the Pope occupies an impor- tant place. "I must see the Pope as soon as possible," writes Herzl to Ravenna on September 5, 1903. In a further letter, dated Septem- FAST ber 10, 1903, he defines the pur- Carry-Out & Delivery Service pose of the audience with the Pope thus: "We want only the prophane land in Palestine. We entertain no idea of infringing on the Holy 4C Places: these have to be - 4C tionalized: .res sacrae extra corn- mercium. I want this proposal to 4C ' be accepted and supported by the Versatile Comic 4( ' Pope. as the spiritual Sovereign respected and recognized even by the Christians of the other Churches." ;.1 * se- Dr. Ravenna didhis cure the audience for Herzl but did not succeed. Iri this connection he hoped to use the good offices of a Jewish M.P. Signor Loono !Plus THE NICK LAWRENCE TRIO* Romai nJacur, later under-Secre- * Shows and Dancing Nightly 4( tary to the Home Office, who was ALL YOU CAN EAT very well connected with Pope SMORGASBORD $3.25 Tues. and Thurs. 5:00 to 9 Pius X. 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Late Snacks • Entertainment Nightly 2229 Jefferson East just minutes from downtown PHONE LO 7-0800 of a casual meeting between Herzl and Count Lippay, painter at the Vatican, on January 19 at the Bier Hall of the Bauer Hotel in Venice. Without previous an- nouncement Lippay took Herzl the Secretary of State, Merry del Val, on January 22. "The wait," writes Herzl, "was far from tedious. There was con- tinuous entertainment in the com- ings and goings of the guards, chamberlains, prelates and the flunkeys in their red damask-silk liveries. All the colors were mar- vellously blended: the world's greatest artists had collaborated Ladies gowned with the tailors in black, and ribboned and ro- setted gentlemen in swallow-tails, emerged from the second ante- chamber, where I caught a glimpse of a red carpet. They were coming from the Pope. "It all had the unmistakable air of a great court. "And the crucified one, pitiable and suffering, the image of human misery, looked down from his bronze form upon the marble walls and the court life that thrives here in his name—and has thriven these many centuries. If he could have foreseen it all when he cried from the cross "Eli, Eli!" would it have made his death easier or harder?" * * * The Secretary of State told Herzl that he could not see how the Vatican could take any initia- tive in the matter. The Jews "per- sist in denying the divinity of Christ. How then. short of aban- doning our own highest principles, can we agree to their regaining possession of the Holy Land? . . . The History of Israel is our own history, it is our foundation. But in order that we should come out for the Jewish people in the way you desire, they would first have to accept conversion." In the end the Cardinal " promised t h e prise en consideration of my request." On January 25, 1904, Herzl was received by Pope Pius X, again through the medium of Count Lippay. The Pope was kind in the form, but shrewd in the content of his answers: the Vatican could not favor the Zionist movement. "The Jews have not recognized our Lord and we cannot recognize the Jew- ish people . . . Either the Jews maintain their ancient faith and continue to await the Messiah; who we believe has already appeared, in which case they are clamping the divinity of Jesus and we can- not assist them. or else they go there with nor religion whatever, and then we can have nothing to do with them." The Pope expressed his benevo- lence towards the Jews as indi- viduals. "There are other bonds than those of religion: social inter- course, for example, and philan-• thropy. Such bonds we do not refuse to maintain with the Jews." But on the question of the Jews' return to Palestine, Pius X was persistent: "If you come to Pales- tine and settle your people there, we will be ready with Churches and priests to baptize all of you." Herzl's audience with the Pope was his last with a Head of State and one of his last with political leaders. Before leaving Rome, on January 26, 1904, Herzl was re- ceived by the Italian Foreign Min- ister, Tomaso Tittoni, and, on April 30, 1904, a few days before leaving Vienna never to return there, Herzl was received by the Austrian foreign minister, Baron Goluchov sky. This took place two months before his death. • Bust of Jewish Artist Unveiled in Rio Square RIO DE JANEIRO (JTA) — A bust of Lazar Segal, famous Jewish- Brazilian artist, was unveiled here in one of the squares in the center of this city. The honor was paid to Segal on the 30th anniversary of the first exhibition of modern art in this country. That show, in 1934, consisted entirely of works by Segal. 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