Friday, June 29, 1956—THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS-2 Purely Commentary Dead Sea Scrolls' Antiquity Claims Upheld By PHILIP SLOMOVITZ Theodor Herz! and the Pope Theodor Herzl, the founder of the modern political Zionist movement, favored the extraterritorialization of the Holy Places. He recognized the interest of the Christians in Palestine as the Holy Land, and he was ready to make concessions in order to secure international recognition of Jewish claims. But he refused to make unreasonable concessions to the Pope. He rejected a proposal by Conte Lippay, who arranged his audience with the Pape, that he should present his idea as being "the Catholic point of view," and he told him: "I am going to the Vatican not as a proselyte, but as a political spokesman for my own people." He also rejected the Conte's request that he propose that the Pope should assume a protectorate over Palestine. These are among the interesting facts revealed in "The Diaries of Theodor Herzl," translated and edited by Marvin Lowenthal, published by Dial Press (461 4th, NY 16). Herzl recorded these impressions of the meeting with the Pope which took place Jan. 25, 1904: "He received me standing and held out his hand, which I did not kiss. Lippay had told me I had to do it, but I didn't. I believe that this spoiled my chances with him, for everyone who visits him kneels and at least kisses his hand." Herzl briefly outlined his program. What he wanted was a statement that the Vatican was not objecting to Zionism. 'But annoyed perhaps by my refusal to kiss his hand, 'he answered in a stern categorical manner: . . . 'We are unable to favor this movement. We cannot prevent the Jews from going to Jerusalem—but we could never sanction it. The ground of Jerusalem, if it were not always sacred, has been sanctified by the life of Jesus Christ. As the head of the Church I cannot answer you otherwise. The Jews have not recognized our Lord, therefore we cannot recognize the Jewish people'." They spoke in Italian and the above quotation appears both in Italian and in the English translation in the Diaries. Herzl wrote in his memoirs, immediately after quoting the Pope's statement, • that "the conflict between Rome and Jerusalem was once again under way." There follows this interesting record of an historical experi- ence in which the Catholic view became thoroughly evident: Herzl states in his Diaries: I said that we based our movement solely on the suf- ferings of the Jews, and wishes to put aside all religious issues. "Yes, but we, but I as the head of the Catholic Church, cannot do this. One of two things will likely happen. Either the Jews will retain their ancient faith and continue to await the Messiah whom we believe has already appeared— in which case they are denying the divinity of Jesus and we cannot assist them. Or else they will go there with no religion whatever, and then we can have nothing at all to do with them. The Jewish Faith was the foundation of our own, but it has been superseded by the teachings of Christ, and we cannot admit that it still . enjoys any validity. The Jews who should have been the first to acknowledge Jesus Christ have not done so to this day." It was on the tip of my tongue to remark, "It happens in every family: no one believes in his own relatives." But, instead, I said: "Terror and persecution were not precisely the best means for converting the Jews." His reply had an element of grandeur in its simplicity: "Our Lord came without power. Era povero. He came in peace. He persecuted no one. He was abandonato even by his apostles. It was only later that he attained stature. It took three centuries for the Church to evolve. The Jews therefore had plenty of time in which to accept his divinity without duress or pressure. But they chose not to do so, and they have not done it yet." "But, Holy Father, the Jews are in a terrible plight. I do not know if Your Holiness is aware of the full extent of their tragedy. We need a land for these Harried people." "Must it be Gerusaletnme?" "We are not asking for Jerusalem, but for Palestine— for only the secular land." "We cannot be in favor of it." "Does Your Holiness know the situation of the Jews?" "Yes, from my days in Mantua, where there are Jews. I have always been in friendly relations with Jews. Only the other evening two Jews were here to see me. There are other bonds than those of religion: social intercourse, for example, and philanthropy. Such bonds we do not refuse to maintain with the Jews. Indeed we also pray for them, that their spirit see the light. This very day the Church is celebrating the feast- of an unbeliever who became converted in a miraculous, manner—on the road to Damascus. And so, if you come to Palestine and settle your people there, we will be ready with churches and priests to baptize all of you." At this point, the Conte appeared, and we read again in Herzl's Diaries: "Lippay stayed on his knees for an unconscion- able time and never seemed to tire of kissing his hand. It was apparent that this was what the Pope liked. But on taking leave, I contented myself with shaking his hand warmly Wand bowing deeply. The audience lasted about 25 minutes. While spending the next hour in the Raphael stanze, I saw a picture of an Emperor kneeling before a seated Pope and receiving the crown from his hands. That's how Rome wants it." But that wasn't how Herzl wanted it, or how Israel wants it. This is one of the most poignant commentaries on Zionism. Before he had met with the Pope, Dr. Herzl expressed pessimism over the Catholic attitude on Zionism. In his Diaries, under date of Dec. 27, 1899, he records a conversation, in Vienna, with Oscar S. Straus, the then U.S. Ambassador to Turkey. He described the American Jew, who was the first to hold a Cabinet post, under President Theodore Roosevelt, as "a short, thin man; a reddish, sparse beard, hook-nose, Jewish projecting ears, hair running thin; 48 years old, dry, 'smart,' and yet at the same time prepossessing because of his honest eyes." Ambassador Straus favored Messopotamia for Jewish settlement. Herzl stated in his Diary, with reference to Straus: "He considers Palestine impossible of attainment. The Greek and Roman Catholic Churches would not let us have it. I told him that I considered only Rome to be a serious opponent. I forgot to give him my deeper reason: that Roman Catholicism is as oecumenical as Judaism. Rome is the rich brother who hates the poor brother; other Churches are national and can dispense with Jerusalem as an Archimedean n_oint of leveraae." (Continued from Page 1) years, which means a range of time between 165 B.C. and 235 C.E., with a mean date of about 35 C.E. In the course of further 'ex- ploration by scholars and illegal searches by bedawi shepherds nine more caves were investi- gated (caves 2Q-10Q; there have been reports of the discovery of additional caves), all of which, with the exception of, 4Q, contained large or small, and even tiny, fragments of manuscripts on leather or papy- rus. A summary report of prog- ress made in the treatment, de- ciphering and study of these (up to the end of August 1955) has been lately published in the Re- vue Biblique, Vol. 63 (1956), 1, pp. 49 foil. This report lists fragments of Oyer 400 works in Hebrew and Aramaic, many of them in several copies, apart from numerous copies of all books of the O.T. (with one accidental exception—the Book of Esther). Cave 4Q contained the two rolled up copper strips inscribed in the square Hebrew script. It has been reported that scientists of the Manchester University have succeeded in cutting one of the rolls without damaging it, so that its contents can now be read. Lately news agencies have circulated so far unsub- stantiated reports that the cut roll contains information on the hiding place of the treasures of the sect. It seems that the state of af- fairs described in the above summary in Revue Biblique al- lows us to surmise that caves 1Q and 4Q were used as hiding places in which jars containing mss. or copper strips rolled up, were hidden to save them from imminent danger. The other caves seem to have been used rather as a "Geniza," for the disposal of torn and worn out scrolls and fragments, which were of no further use, but could not be simply thrown out onto refuse heaps, for religious reasons. All archaeological clues for fixing the date when the scrolls were hidden in Q1 and the rolled copper sheets in Q4 lead us, therefore, to a date round the middle of the 1st cent. C.E., most probably to be connected with the burning (?) of Khirbet Qumran after the destruction of the Second Temple (about 70 C.E.). The mss. themselves would of course be earlier, but could not probably antedate this event by more than 2-3 genera- tions. * * * We now come to the group of documents belonging to the time of Bar Kokheba, mainly coming from excavated caves in Wady Murabba'at, though some of them were acquired from Badawi tribesmen so that the exact spot where these were found could not be ascertained. Prof. Zeitlin's objection to the authenticity of these documents is based, among other reasons, on the argument that the usual introduCtory epistolary formula is "X to Y," and not "From X to Y" as in the case of the so far published documents of this g r o u p. That this statement is erroneous has been amply proved, and quite independently, both by Prof. R. Marcus and the present writer. The former pub- lished in the Journal of Near Eastern Studies XIII (1954), p. 51, a series of introductory sen- tences from Greek letters writ- ten between the IInd cent. B.C.E. and the IInd cent. C.E., chosen at random, which exhibit the formula "From X to Y"; the latter pointed out at least one Hebrew example of the same wording (`Atiqot I (1955), p. 95). Moreover, the Israel Depart- ment of Antiquities has orga- nized lately three expeditions to the Judaean Desert, SW and NW of Eyn-Gedi (Nov.-Dec. 1953, May 1955, March 1956), which definitely proved that several caves On that part of the Judaean Desert were in use during the war of Bar-Kokheba. In the case of Nahal Hever (Wady Habra), two caves were discovered, one in each of the opposite sheer rock-walls of the deep canyon. Exactly over each cave on top of the plateau, in which the wady has cut the canyon in geological time s, there are remains of small Ro- man camps, which were obvi- ously intended to keep watch over the caves. Certain details in the construction of the camps suggest that they were erected later than those around Massa- da, and the latter are definitely dated to the last phase of the war that resulted in the de- struction of the Second Temple, i.e. 70-73 C.E. The only later occasion on which temporary Roman camps could have been built in such a secluded spot in the desert, where no frequented paths were to be found, would be the last phase of the war of Bar-Kokheba (about 135 C.E.). In the caves themselves, recent Jordanian marauders, whose visit was attested by empty Jor- danian cigarette boxes, preceded the expedition of the Israel De- partment of Antiquities (the caves are in close proximity of the boundary of the State). Though they have disturbed the debris in the cave, and if there were any written documents in the caves, certainly removed them, they have not done ir- reparable damage. Soundings made in the two caves have proved that these were occupied by large numbers of people for some time in the IInd cent. C.E. Fragments of large water and storage jars, wooden bowls and utensils, mats and rushes, pieces of linen and leather boots (chil- dren's) and soles (women's — judging by size) were among the finds. In the southern cave a gruesome sight presented it- self to the expedition. Numerous disturbed bodies were strewn about the cave, many of them preserved under the dry cli- matic conditions of the desert to such an extent that skin and hair were still intact. Among these were remains of many women and children. There was a ghastly and most unexpected confirmation of a story pre- served in midrashic literature (Ekha Rabba, Ch. I, para. 16) about remnants of Bar-Kok- heba's defeated army that took refuge in caves and rock-shel- ters and perished there from hunger and thirst rather than surrender to the Romans. In an- other wild creek north-west of Eyn-Gedi above the upper wat- erfall of Nahal David (Wady Sidr) a detailed survey revealed a spacious cave, the entrance of which was so skillfully con- cealed that no one not knowing this hiding place would suspect its existence. The cave contained a large water reservoir fed by an ingenious and camouflaged system of tunnels collecting flood waters. The cave contained potsherds of the early Roman period (Ist-IInd cent. C.E.). Here, too, was unexpected con- firmation of Dio Cassius' state- ment on the war of Bar-Kok- heba concerning the use made of caves and tunnels in storing weapons and provisions in prep- aration for the war. There is, therefore, every likelihood that documents found in similar caves elsewhere should belong to the troubled days of Bar- Kokheba's leadership. Summarizing one may say that even a cursory glance at the archaeological e v i d en ce lately collected in the Judaean desert strongly supports the au- thenticity and antiquity of any documents found in the caves, all the more so since a major part of such has been uncov- ered as a result of proper exca- vations conducted by fully trained and experienced archae- ologists. And if some of the phrases or statements in these antique documents do not square with preconceived notions of scholars primarily nurtured and reared in the traditions and methods of purely literary criti- cism, well—tant pis pour leer systeme. Jerusalem 7.VI.56 Boris Smolar's 'Between You ... and Me' (Copyright 1956, Jewish Telegraphic Agency, Inc.) Domestic Problems: A graphic picture on how the Jews in the South are affected by the tension developed over the issue of integrating the Negro was presented in a private report by the National Community Relations Advisory Council. . . . Jewish merchants and employ- ers of Negro labor find themselves inexorably involved in the economic squeeze between the white supremacists and the Negro. ... These Jewish businessmen are confronted with a cruel choice. . . . Either to go along with the White Citizens Councils and lose the Negro patronage, at the same time becoming objects of Negro enmity. . . . Or defy the Councils which represent in many places the entire power structure of the community. . . The choice is often made the more galling by the fact that some of the White Councils are openly anti-Semitic, while others re- peatedly repudiate responsibility for anti-Semitic propaganda peddled at their meetings. . . . The local White Citizens Councils are tending toward federation, and such a federation will be unique among demagogic organizations of its type if it does not take on anti-Semitic coloration. . . General identification of Jews with the dominant white elements tend to feed anti-Semitic feelings among Negroes not only in the South, but also in other parts of the country. . . . Actually there have been variations in Jewish attitudes in the South. . . While the public school cases were in litigation, there was apprehension over the possible con- sequences to Jews of an open conflict over segregation. . . Summer Issues: The question whether Jewish schools should be closed for the entire summer like the public schools is being debated among Jewish leaders interested in expanding Jewish education. ... It is pointed out that it would be illogical to insist on in- creased Jewish education, while at the same time keeping the Jewish schools closed for a full quarter of the year. . . . During these three months, it is argued, the children forget a good deal of what they have learned in the Jewish schools. . Further- more, these three months offer a golden opportunity for in- creased Jewish education, because the children, having no pub- lic school, can attend the Jewish school not in the afternoon but in the morning hours. . . It is stressed that with the acute shortage of teachers in Jewish schools, it is a sinful waste not to use available teachers for a quarter of the year. . . There is the argument that some of the children obtain their Jewish education during the summer in Jewish summer camps. . .. To this the counter- argument is that not all Jewish children are sent to summer camps because of the cost involved, and many of those who are fortunate enough to go to camp, remain there for only two weeks.