DETROIT JEWISH CHRONICLE and the Legal Chronicle

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DIALOGUE

ed to—and I have been through
the whole of the Britzkrieg—the
valor, the simplicity, the way
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people go about with a smile al-
up to it, that for a single mo- ways in their eyes, despite the
ment I have allowed doubt to horror of it all, would make you
enter my mind. But God knows, Americans feel pretty confident
during the most severe bombard- that we are going to carry on.
ments that we have been subject-
WISE: That's most encour-
aging. In connection with it, I
wonder how the ordinary people
—the kind of people you de-
scribed in "Magnolia Street," in
"Mr. Emanuel," in "Five Silver
Daughters," the kind of people
we would describe here as "strap-
hangers," and that perhaps you
might describe as "bus-riders"-
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how do they feel about the war
and the sacrifices which it is de-
Collingwood at Third
manding of them? Do they feel
a personal stake for themselves,
as well as a national stake for
Make This Your
the British Empire?
GOLDING: I rather feel that
Home
there isn't anybody now in Eng-
land except the ordinary man.
The extraordinary people don't
Live in comfort in well ap-
exist any more. I mean, the job
pointed 1 to 5 rooms carpeted
of work to be done now is to
get on with whatever your actual
suites, fur. or unfur., dining
Louis Golding interviewed by James Waterman Wise r.
job may be, whether it is states-
room, garage. C. Bisio, Mgr.,
manship or digging out corpses
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from air-raid shelters: that's the ence of it all. There are no more cause if that is the spirit with
lovely thing, if I may put it that extraordinary people. We are which the simplest baker's boy
way; it is the unifying experi- Britishers carrying on the tough- meets bomb explosions, it gives
est job we have ever known— one a tremendous feeling that
the people of England as a whole
but the grandest.
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WISE: Here, in America, we are going to continue to stand
the ocean. In the heart of
the city among all activi-
have heard of a great deal of up to it no matter what may
ties. Elaborately furnished
the
social changes, even the social come.
lobbies, gorgeous patios.
There is another question that
progress
which the war has
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brought about. Are these changes I would also like to ask you. It's
established well known
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Mrs. Lipschutz of the
and this progress apparent to a rather political question, and
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the general public? And have if you don't feel like answering
they affected the English people it in political terms, answer it
monimmiummminnimmiumenumminummowsmoinummusummen as a whole? Are they aware of any way that you feel is pos-
them from day to day, or is it sible. And that is, in regard to
something we hear more about Britain's war aims. We have
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heard a lot of discussion over
than you see over there?
GOLDING: When you are a here as to what the real aims of
distance away from a city, let's England are, and so far there
Bring the whole family and enjoy a welcome change.
say a city on the mountain top, hasn't been any official state-
you can get the whole thing into ment on the part of Mr. Church-
It's a delightful treat that won't strain the pocketbook
a sort of perspective, because ill or the government as to these
you can see how the walls and war aims. My question is not
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bles. And that, I think, is what conflict?
GOLDING: It seems to me
it is like in England. I honestly
feel that you, 'in this vantage of that all I can ask from you is
safety, can better generalize than a certain amount of just straight-
we who have got our jobs to do forward trust and belief in us.
It is an extraordinarily compli-
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I'll give an example which oc- cated business—the actual for-
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the ordinary people that have a time when I would not have
been the subject matter of most been too happy in Mr. Churchill's
of my books. Well, I suppose company, but now I feel I am
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there is nobody much more or- as happy in Mr. Churchill's com-
dinary than my little baker's boy pany as I would have been in
from around the corner of my the company of any of the great-
street in London. And the little est heroes of antiquity. I am
story I am going to tell you I diverting for a moment, but it
think throws a sort of flood-light comes round to what I have to
say. I think you would call him
on the whole business.
"a swell guy"—and that he is.
It happened just a few days
You've got to believe him,
after the blitzkrieg started, at
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its most intense. It was in the you've got to believe us when
morning, and this youngster was we suggest to you that the draw-
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denly the most hideous banshee is literally beyond our power.
wailing of the air-raid sirens We are so very busy recovering.
started off. And I can assure We are so very busy trying to
you we hadn't yet got used to it. get an hour or two of sleep oc-
There's a sense in which none of casionally, every 48 or 72 hours.
us will ever get used to it. For We are so busy cleaning up the
example, although I'm not an debris, building up the roads
evil-doer, every time one of your again, manufacturing the air-
police car sirens kicks up that planes—so busy that abstract
awful shindig, I duck my head political debate of that sort just
under the nearest Nedick's isn't in the public mood. I ask
you most urgently—believe us.
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Well, this hideous noise started I think we have shown that we
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front door and he was whistling cency and honor, and it isn't go-
most cheerfully, when all of a ing to be the same sort of peace
sudden he dived into the sort of as, the Lord knows, it isn't the
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feeling awfully sad and senti-
mental, wondering how a kid
like that is going to stand up to
it, what sort of awful trauma,
as the psychoanalysts call it, it
was going to produce on the deli-
cate tissue of his brain. What
sort of complexes was it going
to breed—all this accumulation
of horror from day to day? And
then the kid reappeared with his
basket, and he came up to the
front door, and my housekeeper
was there ready to receive him,
and I just placed myself at a

do that this is not the time to
force a definitive answer to the
question of war aims. The chief
war aim is to win it, at the time
being, and I think that the fu-
ture will, as you so eloquently
put it, take care of itself.

I have one final question which
I thiak is of the greatest interest
to Americans, and perhaps is of
considerable interest to you as
an Englishman. That is in regard
to American aid. I know that
even in the few days you have
been here in the United States
you must have felt that Ameri-
cans are profoundly sympathetic
with England's heroic anti-Nazi
struggle. And most of us wonder
frankly just what we can do in
order to aid more generously
and more effectively in that
struggle than we have yet done.
I would like you to tell us, un-
officially, and quite frankly, how
you feel Americans can aid most

point where I could hear what
he had to say.
And this is what he said—and
his face was so full of poignancy:
"I'm awfully sorry, Mrs. Jones,"
his eyes almost full of tcars-
the wailing was just reaching its
final deadly diminuendo —"I'm
awfully sorry. I know you or-
dered two brown loaves, and I
have only got a brown and a
white. I hope it will do, Mrs. now, and what kind of aid they
Jones."
ought to render in the months
WISE: That is not only a ahead, to Great Britain.
moving story of an individual
GOLDING: I am going to
boy, but it pretty much answers start off with a negative. Some-
the question I began with, wheth- body read to me or pointed out
er England is carrying on. Be- to me a speech by, if I may

January 10, 1941

PERLZWEIG

Will Confer with Commu-
nity Leaders During
His Stay Here

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17. His topic will be "The War,
Britain and the Jews."
Rabbi Joshua S. Sperka will
conduct the services, and Cantor
Abraham Singer will lead in the
singing.
During his stay in Detroit,
Dr. Perlzweig will confer on im-
portant problems affecting world
Jewry with local leaders.
A meeting of leaders in the
American Jewish Congress and
the Women's Division of the
Congress will be held on Sunday,
Jan. 19. The Women's Division
will also be addressed by Dr.
Perlzweig on Monday, Jan. 20.
Further details regarding thesc
two meetings will be announced
next week.
Dr. Perlzweig's Activities
As the head of the World
Jewish Congress movement in
England, Dr. Perlzweig has
served as its political representa-
tive in important consultations
of interventions not only with
the British Government but with
other governments of Europe and
has assisted in bringing about
some diminution of the oppres-
sion directed against Jews.
In the months before the out-
break of the war, he made a
tour of Europe, where he was
received by leading statesmen,
including the late Prime Minister
of Rumania, M. Calinescu. As a
result of this intervention, M.
Calinescu was moved to amelior-
ate the position of the Jews. Dr.
Perlzweig was the first Jew to
be received by a Minister of
Rumania in four years.
In Jugoslavia he secured from
the Prime Minister, M. Tevetco-
vitch, a statement affirming the
rights of Jewish citizens and a
declaration that they would be
safeguarded.
Dr. Perlzweig is one of the
most active leaders in Jewish
and non-Jewish life in England.
In addition to his leadership in
the affairs of the World Jewish
Congress, he is actively identified
with the affairs of the World
Zionist Organization, serving as
a member of the Executive Com-
mittee of the World Zionist Or-
ganization and of the Jewish
Agency for Palestine. He is the
head of the Political Information
Department of the latter organi-
zation in London.
Dr. Perlzweig is also the chair-
man of the World Union of Jew-
ish Students and a member of
the International Students Com-
mission of the International In-
stitute of Intellectual Coopera-
tion of the League of Nations.
He has recently been elected a
member of the Joint Foreign
Committee of England and is
chairman of the Central Jewish
Lectuer Committee of the Lon-
don Board of Jewish Deputies.

call him so, a rather calamitous
Senator, in which this fiefiry
gentleman said that people like
the editor of PM, for instance,
like yourself, like Mr. Rex Stout,
like the members of the William
Allen White Committee, are
anxious to bathe hundreds of
thousands of American boys in
a bath of blood. Well, that is
the most absolute nonsense. We
really don't want a single Ameri-
can lad to come over across the

seas.
We want your trust; we want
your belief; we want your af-
fection; and of course, we want
them expressed in a way which
is not merely important to us

but, believe me, essential to us.
It comes down to this. Money
or no money—that is merely a
symbol. But render aid concretely
in the form of ships, of airplanes.
and between us we shall lift
from this suffering world the
most hideous shadow ever laid
across it.
WISE: I am deeply grateful
to you for speaking in this way.
telling many Americans wh-
want to know just these thing;
about the way people are feeling
and acting and even dreaming
over in England. I would lik
to say to you and through yo::
to the English people, not that
we feel a sense of sympathy for
England—I don't think that 1-;
the way Americans feel — but
rather that we feel a sense of
unity with you in this caus•
which you have described, be-
cause it is the cause of human
freedom, the cause of democracy.
and that cause is indivisible
throughout the world.

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